Saab drama. The 19. December 2011.

It was a black day for Trollhättan, and the blackdest in the history of the car brand Saab. The 19. December 2011 brought the final out for the Swedish cult brand. Before, there were dramatic months, and there were always signs of hope.

Saab factory 2011

And there was Victor Muller. The man who had overestimated the purchase of Saab. But who did not want to give up, and who gave everything to save the mark. As a blogger, Mark and I have experienced many things firsthand. In crisis mode, Saab was very open and cultivated a culture of communication that was exemplary.

The military take reporters into the war zone, Saab took us into the fight for survival. If there was one of the regular "International Market Calls", we were always there live. News from headquarters arrived unfiltered and based on trust. While other blogs copied from newspapers, SU and we had a direct line. The background was clear. It was necessary to avoid disinformation and - in the chaos of events - objectively inform.

The last days of Saab are still clearly remembered. Muller knew he would not win against GM. He said that frankly, and he had all hope for Pang Da-the only partner left. There were days of hectic negotiations until late at night; Plans to save Saab with Chinese money without losing GM licenses. A "firewall" was under discussion to protect American intellectual property from Chinese access.

But GM refused, even before the plans became public in detail, and probably without knowing or testing the details. The rejection was not discreet, as it should have been in the communication among partners. But promptly and publicly, and she became the death knell of all efforts. It was followed by the immediate termination of the talks, and at the 19. December 2011 at 9: 33 watch the release of insolvency.

Muller had bet on the wrong horse with Pang Da and Youngman in the Saab drama. The game against the administration in Beijing and against GM, who would have preferred BAIC as a buyer, was not to win. On the 19. December called Victor Muller to his last "International Market Call". Dejected and visibly taken away by the events, he spoke for the last time to the Saab employees around the globe. Worth mentioning are his last words.

It should never be forgotten that Swedish law allows companies to get back out of bankruptcy. Victor Muller, December 2011.

Without Muller, however, and maybe with a new owner. At least that's what you saw in Trollhattan. Saab had survived many crises and was hardened. The staff went home, celebrating Christmas, and expected to return to work in January. Hardly anyone cleared their desks, many left jackets and other items behind. But there was no return.

The insolvency administrators took over, and with them came a few people, now in the service of lawyers, back to the Stallbacka. They had a ghostly time in empty offices, but they looked as if the former colleagues had only just disappeared for lunch break.

If Saab and the Saab people excel, it's pragmatism. In Sweden, Germany and many other countries, the survival of the brand was organized. That Saab Automobile Parts AB should survive as the only part of the company quickly became clear. Nyköping, the historic Saab site, became an anchor as the Trollhättan plant staggered towards the end. In the following days it was organized and improvised, and in January it was clear that it would continue with spare parts and supplies for dealers and customers.

Much of that time seems unreal today. Because many did something in this exception, without a mandate or a contract of employment. The things made sure backups moved, and with their commitment secured the survival of the brand.

That with the end of Saab also the end of the GM empire would begin, suspected on 19. December 2011 no one yet. At Opel, they were glad to get rid of the Swedish lateral thinkers and looked optimistically into the future.

It depends on the Opel engineers themselves how many of them would still be needed in a few years. Carlos Tavares, December 2017.

Today, 6 years later and a bit wiser, it is clear that Saab was not allowed to survive. Muller had made mistakes in a situation that does not forgive a single mistake. But the mastermind was in Detroit, and GM wanted Saab disposed of at all costs. Even later, after the tragic 19. December 2011, efforts were made to complicate life to the successors in the stablebacka.

This seems very strange today, in the year 2017. The GM empire has been around since the 19. December 2011 pretty atomized. The loss of Saab, the only European premium brand in the American portfolio, was just the start. Since then, plants have been closed worldwide, and the withdrawal from the markets has taken place on a large scale.

Opel - the company that Saab always followed and hindered in the group - landed on the Resterampe and is used by the PSA Group. The supposedly so unique technology licenses of the year 2011 are not even good for the rummage table. They are outdated. The news for Opel and Vauxhall are bad. In Eisenach there has been short-time work for months, and from January 2018 also in Rüsselsheim. Research, development and administration report for at least 6 months short-time work at. It depends on the Opel engineers themselves how many of them would be needed in a few years, said PSA boss Tavares. That does not sound good!

Why Saab had to die is a question that may remain unanswered forever. The company had some exciting developments in the portfolio. The ePower concept went bankrupt, the electric rear axle made its way with other manufacturers. The visionary IQon Concept his apps were ahead of time, and then there are still the rumors. One of them concerns engines supposedly developed together with AVL in Södertälje. You can not prove it, the facts are thin and speculative. An engine block for diesel and gasoline, which once again could have been a typical Saab idea. And it says a lot that this development landed at a reasonable price for another manufacturer at the right time.

And Victor Muller? The polarized man whose PR talent was referred to as "Circus Muller" in Sweden? He is a hero to the Saab veterans because he is the man who tried. That he, contrary to many allegations, did not get rich with his commitment to Saab, has now been judicially resolved.

But he too paid for the Saab drama, and he still pays. After a first trial ended with an acquittal, he's been standing since the 12. December again in Vänersborg in court. The charge is "gross fraud". The prosecutor uses interviews and recordings from Sweden television as evidence. Maybe Saab and Trollhättan was the adventure of his life for him. In a life that is certainly not poor in adventures.

And the bloggers? Mark and I write Saab, still. We drive Saabs, some members of our family as well. You can say that we live the brand. As before, and also 6 years later. An end does not seem in sight. And to be honest, the 19. December 2011, he is like an open wound that does not want to heal.

42 thoughts too "Saab drama. The 19. December 2011."

  • 19. December 2017 at 10: 48 AM

    The Swedish state could have meaningfully supported the brand in this difficult phase. Many other European vehicle manufacturers would have long since disappeared from the markets, if the leaders had not intervened to help - even the dubious GM group was "saved" in America with huge sums of money from the state.

    Thanks again to Sweden, for such a "performance".

    • 19. December 2017 at 1: 03 PM

      As we learned years later, there were these considerations. Saab take over, renovate, and then sell. Unfortunately, then stood a billion-sum in the room, not in Sweden crowns, but in €, which would not have been politically feasible. One must not forget: The condition of the brand was bad, the company "amputated" by GM, and alone not viable.

      • 20. December 2017 at 9: 21 AM

        The infamous amputation was probably decisive, ...

        ... because SAAB's product portfolio was never before so big. They had (in front of Diesel-Gate) the most economical and most potent diesel available, which were ever transplanted into a SAAB. The petrol engines were new and, compared to their predecessors, virtually deceived from the factory (which did not prevent the Swiss from refining these fine motors with bay leaf, juniper and pepper to the game dish and at the same time lending them more "volume" ... ).

        A large station wagon and SUV were in the starting blocks and the 9-5er different engine was available with XWD, in the top engine, it was even mandatory. The multi-modernized 9-3 rounded off the offer down and was at the height of its evolution.

        Without amputation, SAAB would not only have provided good arguments for a new purchase for long-standing SAAB customers, but also opened up new prospects and shoppers.

        9-4X and the 9-5 SC II would have been ideal vehicles for the Swedish police and fire department (Operations Command). The NG would have become the diesel most popular taxi Malmö, Gothenburg and Stockholm and could also find new drivers outside Sweden.

        Yes, would have, would, would have ...

        The 19.12. (2011) is truly the official day of death. It's great that SAAB is so worthily remembered and that the heritage is kept alive.

        Once again great!

        • 20. December 2017 at 5: 02 PM

          I also think that the portfolio SAAB had in the starting blocks had saved the company. Other car companies were already in front of the Kolaps and have gotten the curve thanks to Kleverer and modern products. Examples are BMW and VW. You could cry - but it does not help anything.

  • 19. December 2017 at 11: 40 AM

    L'état suédois n'a rien fait, alors qu'il était possible d'aider Saab, simplement en vendant les voitures 20% plus cher, sans perte significative sur le marché. Regardez les prix de Lexus, Infiniti, et bien d'autre. Cette faillite est une erreur de marketing, GM ne visait que les voitures bon marche, ce n'etait pas la place de Saab.

  • 19. December 2017 at 12: 06 PM

    For me VM was not a hero but a blender. As for the Swedish seed, why should the Saab save? When things are going well, if you refuse to interfere with the state, things are going to go bad. Save banks is evil, Saab save well? Sorry, but who wants market economy / capitalism must also have the bad side in mind ... who is bothered by it just need to change something.

    • 19. December 2017 at 2: 57 PM

      Hello Daniel,

      Ever heard of social market economy? This had been written especially Sweden always on the flags ...

      The example with the banks is not even bad - only with the difference that banks are usually just in case of need but state support. And what about the salvation of GM in capitalist America? Somehow, it was even more social than in Sweden - the whole tragedy in Sweden is undoubtedly still fraught with some big question marks and the helping but ultimately refused billions of syrup should not have been the real problem for the rich Sweden. The reasons for the expiration lay with GM (actually over years to observe) and then finally at the Swedish administration, which was not really socially adjusted.

      • 19. December 2017 at 3: 20 PM

        Thank you Rudolf, for your answer to Daniel. I also wanted to do it but can not say better how you put it here.

      • 19. December 2017 at 4: 04 PM

        Social market economy is all well and good, but that must not mean that one takes the company out of responsibility. They drive the cart to the wall and then lend themselves well back and let the state, so the taxpayers, the whole charge. This is not the solution for banks or other companies. But if everyone grumbles on the Swedish state, the bill has worked out for GM ... then you do not look at the real culprits anymore.
        If the state wants to do something you have to start much earlier. It may not be so easy for companies like GM to create such a situation.
        Sure, some would have liked to see if the state Saab rescues, so is also a Saabblog. Would the enthusiasm have been just as big when it comes to Volvo, or Renault? Just as a thought experiment ...

        • 20. December 2017 at 10: 37 AM

          Hello Daniel,

          You say so yourself. By referring to GM as the true culprit, they relieve the Swedish state in a sense, but also SAAB.

          And that raises - for me at least - already the question of whether a state could no longer assume responsibility for itself as an industrial location, for a traditional company and its employees, its suppliers and their employees, should have shown more commitment or even need ?

          Especially in the global context of "America first" and Chinese economic policy, Europe and its national governments are in my opinion well advised to pay attention to which value chains and which elements of them should be kept locally.

          We do not have to imagine that as a pure R & D company, we could be or become something like the well-educated and educated master race above an Asian workbench. That would be a post-colonial arrogance (in my opinion, quite repulsive).

          And she has long been outdated by reality. European companies such as Airbus open development centers in India. Not only technicians, but also engineers and project managers are available all over the world, often cheaper and more highly qualified.

          And it was granted to all nations and global fellow citizens from heart to cut off a slice of industrial prosperity. But is not that also creating competitive pressure and responsibility for European governments? ? ?

          Why should Sweden, other Europeans and their respective governments be discouraged from taking responsibility locally and for their own citizens?

          SAAB is dead and Volvo now (also after a detour via the USA) firmly in Chinese hands. Volvo and SAAB were the only Scandinavian manufacturers. Something went wrong. Terribly wrong! ...

          • 21. December 2017 at 2: 02 PM

            The transformation to the R & D society has nothing to do with "wanting" or arrogance, it comes naturally. The Chinese are just cheaper! I do not want anyone to work on Chinese conditions / wages. This also causes problems for us, it can not make a highly qualified job, is beyond doubt.
            In the concrete example, what would have happened if Saab were rescued by the Swedish state? You can not ride a dead horse! If I'm properly informed, Saab only had a few years in the 80ern where they really made a profit. The company was highly deficit and even with a lot of imagination I would not have been able to see how their sales doubled or tripled. This has probably been similar in the Swedish government. If it had been just a few "botched" years, I would have thought it a pity if there had been no support from the state, no matter how it looked.
            Saab, however, has retracted over 200Mio's operating loss every year and has only sold 2007 slightly over 90000 cars. They would have to find tons of new car buyers, a few contaminated "Saab fans" are not enough.

          • 21. December 2017 at 2: 27 PM

            You can not leave your statement uncommented. Whether Saab was profitable or not is unclear. GM creatively booked all sorts of expenses on the stablebacka. Prototype development and construction of showcars ​​for other brands, the development of the BLS. In return, the revenues generated by Saab were not credited to the Swedes, but booked to other markets and brands.
            According to the low demand with the GM Trollhättan entertained, with the lack of investment, I would not be sure if there was not at least a black zero in the end.

          • 21. December 2017 at 4: 37 PM

            @ Tom: that was there in the accounting "tricked" by GMs sides is well known. But what was the profit per car? If I see that Audi alone from the A4 sells more vehicles per quarter than Saab with all the models per year, one is already pondering. Surely the expenditure is higher at Audi but mM has simply sold too little Saab.

          • 21. December 2017 at 4: 55 PM

            Can not compare, Audi has many more models. I think you should ask the question differently. What were the costs? GM entered 90 with 50%, from 2000 it was 100%. During this time, the 9-5 I was developed and the 9-3 II. The 900 II does not count, which was as good as ready when getting started. And since the 9-5 NG and 9-4x only came to the Spyker era, GM has in 20 years only 2 (!) Launched completely new models. The investments are more than manageable.
            An effective plant at that time produced relatively high-priced vehicles that received facelift in small doses. The yield per vehicle was certainly high, but he just never landed in Sweden.

          • 22. December 2017 at 10: 10 AM


            Quote: "The transformation to the R & D society has nothing to do with 'wanting' or arrogance, it comes naturally."

            Oh, that's it. Already some years ago, Schröder ranted about the social transformation into a service society as a royal road. The political will to actively pursue this direction is real and a documented dogma prevailing today.

            That does not just come from alone, but is based on political assessments and designs. Even on unused creative freedom and omission.

            And the (postcolonial) arrogance lies in the mistaken belief that aspiring states and their citizens would be content with their intended role as a cheap and postcolonial workbench in the long run, in a competition for technology.

            Propagating our technical lead as a sustainable, sustainable model for the future (Schröder) is based on a completely unfounded sense of superiority. Just post-colonial arrogant ...

            Europe has long begun to stumble and fall with this strategy on the nose. Chinese high-speed trains win tenders and are sold to Western countries. The ICE is in the wrong. Only one of many examples. Telecommunications, shipbuilding, consumer electronics, IT hardware, automobiles, industrial robots, solar systems, aerospace, etc. ...

            China, South Korea and India want the whole value chain. And they can do it!

            But many do not want to admit that and lack political reactions. The question is whether and what we can still do in 20 to 30 years under these conditions?

            Or will we become an R & D company, soon completely without a workbench and without orders (see German solar industry)?

            VM and the Swedish state had to find each other in time. Then there would probably have been no problems with GM licenses. And I would now have a 9-5 II SC ...

  • 19. December 2017 at 12: 06 PM

    I do not understand at all that until today no big car manufacturer has interest in SAAB ...

    • 19. December 2017 at 1: 06 PM

      That's probably over. The big manufacturers have other things on the agenda. How will they be positioned in 10 until 15 years ago? Only hardware suppliers for large fleet operators? The market is changing radically. In China, 2 big manufacturers have already announced the end of conventional vehicles to 2025 and the end of the sale to private individuals 2020.

      • 6. January 2018 at 3: 06 AM

        2008 became the death kill of may Western manufacturing, transferring to China since.

        I think I realized how bad it was when Scania Trucks announced 80? units (3.2% of previous years), Yes just 3.2% against previous years .... !!

        Everyone, that was weak (GM included) what screwed down from the neck, and the banks did not like to act.

        Meanwhile Chinese BANKS, many with lots of $$$ stuffed away for rainy days, now moved and bought the world ... .. !!

  • 19. December 2017 at 12: 22 PM

    Thanks for this emotional mirror. Yes, this review is still painful. But also exciting.
    The introductory photo looks wonderful: a yard full of produced SAABs that will be traveling to the customers ..., but in the end there were just too few customers who said yes to SAAB and also bought (!). RIP

  • 19. December 2017 at 12: 38 PM

    A very good, albeit saddening, summary of what's going on around the 19.12.11. That's so long ago, it's hard to believe we're there, thanks to your Saab commitment.
    There are also our cars. May they accompany us for a long time.
    All a Merry Christmas and all the best for 2018!

  • 19. December 2017 at 1: 15 PM

    Hello Tom, again a very well written article, which makes one more time very thoughtful ... ..
    As you write, we continue to drive - satisfied and a little stubborn - our Saabs and enjoy it every day, just being a little different ...
    Thanks again to Dein and Marks commitment and to you and your families a Merry Christmas.
    Greetings from Thuringia, Peter

  • 19. December 2017 at 2: 26 PM

    Hello Tom

    Well written.

    1. This is understandable how it could come to this. It was probably so wanted.

    2. Why it stayed that way, less. After all, shortly after the bankruptcy BMW made an offer. One did not grab this chance either. You will have had reasons. Obviously, something better could not be done.

    3. Today it is also completely clear why no other manufacturer has any interest: Apart from the trademark rights, there is nothing left that would have any value.

    I was one of those who bought and drove SAAB.

    SAAB was exceptional - in terms of products, but also in the nagging of opportunities. Unfortunately. I would have liked to ride my last SAAB even longer.

  • 19. December 2017 at 2: 51 PM


    I recently joined a SAAB specialist with good relations to Sweden. The engine technology you mentioned seems indeed to have found its way into a make. At least that glass was clearly presented to me there. That the manufacturer is not to be found near the origin, it should be clear, if you look, would be only one block for all engines in the 2l area uses.

    The heritage of SAAB is ubiquitous, worldwide. But I would rather have experienced that in a SAAB.

    Greetings from Erik

  • 19. December 2017 at 4: 29 PM

    The 19.12.2011 was a black day in automotive history. Nevertheless, you have to thank V.Muller. At least he tried. Without him we would probably have a few thousand Saab less on the road and there would not have been the 9-5 NG. Incidentally, the deadly strike for the brand came under Nevs only afterwards.

  • 19. December 2017 at 4: 46 PM

    SAAB has always had other, really innovative ideas, which alone is a big "fuss" for the German manufacturers. The suspicion that the Amis Saab have only snorted to plunder and dispose, is in the form of giant letters in the room. Opel was allowed to continue living, because it fits well with German Biederkeit - just nothing experimental, only good for janitors with some money produce - hurray. And yet: In the long term, the AudiMercedesBmwVWOpel unit-merchandise manufacturers at the inflated price fall heavily on the muzzle, down from high horse. As far as e-vehicles are concerned, Tesla completely disgraces the ridiculous i3 & Co in all comparison tests. But the Teutons have ivestiert billions in Stinkerfertigungsstraßen, of course, want a hefty amortization - say: Until the St.Nimmerleinstag gasoline and diesel coaches continue to build with insane, meaningless electronics and cheaper plastic interior. Long live the profit (at the expense of others)! But: NEVS is alive, with a little skill that will soon sell decent quantities - I'm interested too.
    PS: Read in a German car newspaper any comparison test between Deutschkarre and Volvo - the Volvo is always allegedly worse (the reality looks very different), as it was earlier in SAAB.

  • 19. December 2017 at 5: 37 PM

    Am 2007 seriously ill and still live. 2011, my wife is seriously ill and still lives. In the summer of 2011, we ran some sort of automotive change management and bought an almost new 9-3 convertible. As Petrolhead I knew about this blog, among other things, that it was not good for SAAB. I did not care that much and we made many beautiful exits in Germany and Europe in the next few years. Always with a view of the beautiful moments. The manufacturer SAAB has not existed for a long time. Too bad and sad, but not to change. For that we still exist the SAAB enthusiasts. With each tour we age a bit and our cars too. If you then sit at home and think about the vehicle fleet, then you will be a little "stubborn" and says to yourself: "Should it really have been with my SAABS already?" Definitely no! So it was only logical to get a nearly 19-year-old 9-5I. After all, you will not get any younger. Also, I did not regret the last purchase, although some had to be invested in order to sustainably improve the service life. Meanwhile, the 9-5I is pretty well restored and brings us comfortable, good and safe through this and certainly through the coming winters. So what the hell. The manufacturer does not exist anymore, but we are still alive and have fun with our cars. Thanks to Tom for his tireless efforts and a lot of fun for everyone who likes the same.

    • 20. December 2017 at 10: 28 AM

      That's the spirit! ! !

      What a comment. Hats off and thanks.

      • 21. December 2017 at 9: 55 AM

        Wauw, Bukki; Thank you for describing your experience so beautifully and strongly here. Enjoy your Saabs for a long time !!!

  • 19. December 2017 at 7: 23 PM

    I still hope that Martins article: fiction Saab. A view into the future will somehow come true

    Although I do not really believe in the return of SSAB, but the rest was allowed to vote. I think only the still several more car makes disappear. Not necessarily because the consumer no longer wants them, but because international financial jugglers who own shares in every major brand like it. Because they hope for more profit without regard to the people.

  • 19. December 2017 at 8: 55 PM

    Despite criticism of GM, one should not forget that Saab himself was not entirely innocent of his decline. It's not like Saab has been a highly profitable company for years. It was not in vain takeover candidate ... and the "stubbornness" of Saab responsible is also legendary. The fact is, similar to Citroen, that one has to build quite idiosyncratic cars that did not hit every taste. This has also been reflected in the sales figures.

  • 19. December 2017 at 10: 04 PM

    For years, I was always confident SAAB would do it with new investors like VOLVO with China, LAND-ROVER / RANGE-ROVER with India. Such a traditional brand, Progressive and innovative ....... We Saab community as well as Saab have been withheld and the latest technology sold to companies that laugh in the fistchen and I am bred, as already mentioned by you, that this technology is installed somewhere. Finally, the mercy sting was made anyway by General Motors.

    As a 17 year-old, about 33 years ago I saw a white Saab 900s or i with my former teacher, I do not know anymore. I liked this car very well, but was priced far from my budget at the time. Seen, forget my first car was then an Opel Ascona 2ltr, and it followed Opel by Opel and also many repairs in all those years, until 2004 our office woman, and passionate Saab driver pointed to the Aaretalgarage in Münsigen and said: You muesch mau e Saab ga drive, de wosch du nüme angers (Berndeutsch) Once there, the Werkstadt boss gave me a 9.5 SE station wagon, which fit into my budget. Dangers, bought I fell in love with this brand. It was the most comfortable and best car I have ever had under my rear. This was followed by a 9.5 Aero station wagon, 9.3 Aero station wagon from Hirsch, which I sold last year (which devil rode me there) and bought my wife on her fiftieth a Landrover Discovery Sport. Granted, it came closest to the Saab in terms of comfort and interior.

    About two months ago I had a slight tingling sensation, after reading every SaabBlog since the beginning, AutoScout24 turned on and started searching for Saabs. For me it was clear from now on, you must help again to get this mark. Because .. which other driver than the Saab driver greets you friendly when cruising, and has such good character? .... at least about ten days ago I saw an Inerat near Leibstadt of a 9.3 station wagon, which was described as 2.8 V6 XWD, but saw my eye at the exact picture gallery consider special rims, grille and diffuser in titanium gray, charge pressure indicator in orange .... For me it was clear that this had to be a Turbo X. The phone in hand, the provider contacted ...... .. since the 16. December, I am the proud owner of a Saab 9.3 Turbo X in Combi form, all service at Saab, Demonstrated and from service, and after a short discussion, I was still the Haldex4 clutch service credited. The car is first-hand, well maintained and looks down, as I know it from Saab, as new.

    Well, the Land Rover is really a great car, but I enjoy the friendly greetings of the Saab drivers, the interested looks in the community and the incredibly comfortable leather in the Turbo X. HIGH LIVE SAAB

    Dear Tom, thank you for your tireless research and writing. I have failed to make a financial contribution, but I will make up for it, because it is worth every penny and cent.

    @ Your Tom from Switzerland

    • 20. December 2017 at 10: 29 AM

      Hello Tom, nice statement! And if I did not already have 6 Saab, I would have bought the Turbo X too! Was a really good offer. I keep checking the net for good Saab, think 6 just are not enough ... ..
      Have a good trip and a Merry Christmas to Bern and the whole Saabgemeinde
      Hans from Basel

  • 19. December 2017 at 11: 44 PM

    I'm probably driving one of the last few Saabs built by Muller. It's a 9-3X Combi which I purchased "new" in December 2012. It was manufactured in December 2011 and had stucco in the bankruptcy, sitting on a dock in California. Gary Blake Saab in New Hampshire has purchased it from the bankruptcy estate and has shipped it to New Hampshire ... ..what a fantastic car, and what a crying f - g shame that there will be no more.

  • 20. December 2017 at 10: 46 AM

    Hugh Weisman can you show photos our car's?

    • 20. December 2017 at 2: 04 PM

      How do you show photo?

  • 21. December 2017 at 12: 41 AM

    Hi all.

    Mixed feelings are sometimes heatedly discussed here. You can tell that the fists are raised against GM. That the spirit lives!

    Only wants to give food for thought.
    Who would have bought a Saab from Munich?
    Or even worse. With Wolfsburg Einheitsteilein!
    Is that really what you would have wanted?
    Who says the Germans continued to produce in Trollhattan and not elsewhere?

    And whether the Saabist's solitary approach to the development and transformation of basic technology into better ones would be tolerated by the Teutonic capitalists as long as I dare to doubt seriously.
    Unfortunately, it is a company with billions of debts and no prospect ever
    to pay them off is of no interest to anyone.
    Of course, Nobel brands like Bentley or Ferrari are also kept on the drip, but they are just a different class. One where only the name alone brings money.

    So I think it was better that way!
    Because I would not want to drive a 9.3 on golf basis nor one with the confusing and complicated Munich controls.

    For a Saab, is a Saab, is and remains a Saab!
    A car that is different!
    One in which my mother has problems opening the door from the outside because the door handle swings up.
    One in which the workshop people scratch the steering wheel fairing, right.
    One in which the youth must stare at the emblem and read what kind of car it is.

    Just a Saab!

    • 21. December 2017 at 8: 22 AM

      Eric, very well written! That's exactly how it is and that's why we love and drive our Saab!
      Good time!

      • 21. December 2017 at 10: 07 AM

        Indertat, as Hans says; this is very well summarized and gives a very realistic picture of what most Saab fans think.

    • 22. December 2017 at 3: 40 PM

      I would immediately have bought an 9-5 with an 6 cylinder engine from BMW and four-wheel drive.

      The basis would have been at least at a current technical level. What you get from 2. Face-lift of the 9-5 can not claim. With this type I was sold for good money an outdated base and an unacceptable GPS.

      This story could have been different. There would have been enough opportunities for differentiation. The nationalist club certainly did not help. Elsewhere you were not so sensitive. The fact is that even with the 9-5 Aero SC the Navi and the gearbox came from Toyota suppliers.

  • 21. December 2017 at 11: 38 AM

    SAAB had to be pulped because it so desired Swedish industrial policy. Redistribution of market share from SAAB to VOLVO also has a role to play. Mueller's "refurbishment" would have been possible only with gentle job cuts and of course with much more money. GM also had the wet dream to benefit from the SAAB market share. In the end, the company GM itself a rehabilitation case.

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