SAAB News: Comeback with the 9-3 Cabriolet (?)

The comeback of Saab could start with the 9-3 Cabriolet. And it could all take place sooner than previously known. That is what Fredrik Sidahl, CEO of the national supplier association FKG, told the local press. Everything is therefore speculative, but the chances of a reboot do not seem to be bad.

Saab reboot with the 9-3 Cabriolet?

The first positive signals from traditional suppliers have already arrived in Trollhättan. Because the economic development in Sweden is so bad that every job is very welcome to the companies. As the situation has developed in recent weeks, more in the next article. In addition to the cabriolet, so yesterday reported circles, sports car and sedan roll off the line.

Does the plan of the new Saab owner make sense? It is actually the wrong question. ... you'd better think about the point of not doing this. And whether you can afford not to. A dormant car plant is an expensive car plant. Maintenance and servicing costs devour considerable sums of money. The production facilities have to run, otherwise environmental certificates and other requirements will expire. The owners are in the comfortable situation of owning a plant without employees. No high costs, no severance payments, no high wages, no trouble with unions. On the contrary ! Sweden's labor market is producing applicants at full speed, and employers have good opportunities.

Looking at the financing side, it will be easier to get stockholders and financiers excited about ongoing production with real existing products, distribution channels, and customers, than for two electric prototypes in the showroom and a stagnant, gawking factory.

Tool costs for the 9-3 are not incurred, the costs for further development are low. With a small crew, perhaps a few hundred employees, to start producing 10.000 or 20.000 cars a year, that would be possible. The high cost of the Muller era, when the plant with 3.500 employees devoured 5 million a month, is history. The market for a 9-3 Griffin would be there. In Germany, two thirds of the Saab inventory are from this model range. That would be more than 40.000 potential customers with a lot of catching up to do. You just have to play his cards right!

The question arises about the engines, to which there are (still) hardly any answers. Starting with the famous diesel engines would be no problem, because the diesel - from the marriage of GM and Fiat, developed and refined by the Swedes - belongs to Saab. It looks more interesting with the gasoline. In order to meet the current Euro 5 standard, all 9-3 as Griffin models were converted to direct injection. The engines came from GM, and the question is whether GM would reappear as a supplier. Some friends in Sweden see the Americans on board again, because GM had always emphasized that they would like to supply engines and transmissions for the 9-3.

Speculatively, BMW could also enter as a supplier. Prototypes with a griffin on the hood and with a Bavarian heart underneath already existed, and the view would be tempting. Not to mention the possible image gain when a fabulous BMW engine - refined and adapted by Saab - ensures performance. It is also speculative that - according to my voices from Trollhättan - Mahindra pulls the strings behind the scenes and provides engineering and financing.

There is no confirmation of this and no visible signs. But everything is possible at Saab, we've learned that over the past few months, and we'll probably be able to dream ...

Text: tom@saabblog.net

18 thoughts on "SAAB News: Comeback with the 9-3 Cabriolet (?)"

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    Come on, please, get off this "bad GM lyre".
    It may be nice to find a culprit, even if he is not alone in blame for the misery.
    Opel's problem is that too few people buy an Opel, Basta!
    Perhaps the German premium manufacturers simply make better lobbying with the auto journalists (sponsoring), or how do you explain that every comparison test is won?
    And through the media, you sometimes make opinions!

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    I find the passage with GM as engine supplier interesting. Was not it GM, who by the strict refusal to continue to supply Saab under Chinese ownership, had finally taken the last coffin nail?
    Where did this sudden change of heart? What is different now under NEVS?

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      GM does not see any competition in the 9-3, say our Swedes. The GM problems were primarily about the more modern 9-5 II and 9-4x.

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      The question marks about GM are not only related to the engines but to the behavior of GM in general. The fact is that SAAB has no longer had its own perspective since the connection with GM and has only been used as a development location for other products in the GM group. The same thing is now repeated at Opel - although good products are available, Opel is allowed to develop for other brands in the group, global sales for Opel are prevented and Opel is competing with the Chevrolet-Kia mills from Korea in the core markets.

      A sustainable future for SAAB is therefore hard to imagine with GM. As has become apparent in the American election campaign, Europe no longer plays a role on the geopolitical world map for the United States. Since GM has been rescued with state funds, it is obvious that they are now primarily pursuing national interests. The SAAB story proves that GM does not build cars for the European markets. Being reliant on GM for the second time can only lead to the same result.

      What is Swedish politics doing? - Anyone who thinks that one can only have “head jobs” in one country and have the products made or buy them somewhere in the world probably has no idea about the national economy and should not be surprised at rising unemployment figures! It has been seen in many areas so far - when the production jobs disappear, after a while the development departments and with them the technology also go. We have learned in many areas that functioning process chains, short distances and efficient communication are the prerequisites for keeping technologies in the country. It is not without reason that near-shoring is a megatrend in Europe.

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        Unfortunately, you all did not understand what it is about. Core markets for the future car trade are now no longer European countries but the former emerging markets of this world. How can GM build cars for Europe when the sales in the per thousand range in relation to the rest of the world?
        Incidentally, GM had not bought Kia but Dewoo. And since the avarice is governed by cool trend, they are on the right track with their policies. Because never before have so many Chevys raced on Europe's roads (even though these are in reality rice bowls).

        Maybe you just have to face the truth and admit that the Chinese are on the verge of mastering the world. Because they buy tons of unprofitable companies at bargain prices and thus come to technology leaps from 10 or more years. And this almost for free!

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    somehow it would be nice if the production of the 9-3 II would start again. But just thinking of NEVS to do so shows once again that from the beginning they did not really have a plan what to do from the factory they bought. NEVS wants to become the world market leader in electric cars, initially does not want to have anything to do with the old Saab customers and does not even want to provide spare parts for previous Saab vehicles (Saab Parts) and suddenly turn around and build cars that are already in their basic construction 10 years old and have nothing to do with the issued Philosiphie of NEVS. Although one knows not even if NEVS has a philosophy at all. Maybe it's just a desperate attempt to make some kind of money with the factory you bought, and the next bankruptcy is closer than you think. As I said, it would be nice and it would be a start, but I still believe that the men at NEVS do not really know what to do or should do.

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      I'm not so sure that NEVS did not have a plan!
      I guess that was very well considered, only that one deals with information very prudently and only now with it rauskommt, after many details are clarified!

      I think NEVS is now at a stage where, after the initial turmoil and policy issues, they are entering the phase of truly tackling production and planning in detail.

      When I set up or buy a company, I don't start with production right away - there are completely different worries and needs!

      I keep my fingers crossed and would be very happy to see new bitches on the streets again!
      It's just a shame that the 9-4x will never exist….

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      Hello Peter,

      The newcomers NEVS also have to adapt to the events on the global market somehow. Since it has probably noticed that electric vehicles are currently not the hit and Phoenix still needs a while, now first experiences the well-tried a renaissance.

      The models are mature and hopefully the sufficient engines will also be used - my dream engine would be that from BMW (but there would certainly be other powerful and suitable engines).

      From the fact that discussions with suppliers have been going on for months, you can also see that this is not a sudden U-turn - this planning seems to have come on the agenda immediately after the purchase of SAAB. The difference to its predecessor is that not everything comes up straight away. Personally, I don't find this to be a disadvantage - although apart from the competition, the fan community doesn't immediately know what's up to it. But if the end result somehow works out, fans of the brand should be a little generous. Because it is certain that most of us would rather drive a new SAAB 9-3 II than another make - and this even after 10 years since the basic design was created!

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    A SAAB with a BMW engine would be a sensible, economical and above all European solution! This would SAAB in one fell swoop technologically up to date and the annoying GM finally out. I will never again buy a GM or GM technology vehicle.

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      NEVER anything with GM ... NEVER !!! and please also with better materials in the interior ... BMW would be great ... or an old engine from the 9000, which easily consumed 3 l less than my "BIO Power" from the 9-3!

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    It would be wonderful, whether with Fiat or BMW as engine supplier!
    Then there are still in a few years boy used on the market!
    Greeting André

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      I do not want to rob you of the verve here, but Fiat? I think they are currently too big a problem than that you should choose such a manufacturer as Lieferan. In addition, the engines are not top of the class 😉

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        Hello Yves, I really can't complain about my "Italian" TTiD10 after the first 4 thousand km. Drives well and premium providers also offer noticeably poorer engines in their smaller vehicles. I feel motorized enough there.

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    Well and I keep dreaming of the new 9-5 II SC Aero in the color Java ...

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    The 9-3 Cabriolet would be the perfect (re) restart for SAAB for spring 2013. The beautiful station wagon and sedan could also be offered again on this model. Yes, yes, Tom, as you always write so beautifully: Dreams are allowed you always ... ..

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      Then I dream of the station wagon!

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        Please a convertible. Please in Monte Carlo yellow as SAAB-Revival Edition

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          I'm there!

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