Rebus. Saab engine.

Update & resolution 27.09.13

A look under the bonnet can be interesting. Sometimes disappointing, because with many modern products only small machines live under the hood. But sometimes it can be really exciting. We looked under the hood. Of course with a Saab. Only with which? And, hmm, what's that engine?

A Saab engine. Only in which car and which engine.
A Saab engine. Only in which car and which engine.

Questions about questions. While I'm on the road today and the blog has to wait, a picture puzzle for the readers. Maybe someone from the Saab community knows the solution. Because with a little skill and combination, the resolution could not be a problem. Have fun!

The resolution

It was not easy, but reader Anddeu was on the right track very fast. Congratulations Anddeu! The engine pictured comes from VM Motori, is a 2.9 liter V6 diesel. At Saab he came as A29DT designated engine under the well-formed hood of the 9-5 II. Unfortunately, it never came to the series and there is a vehicle worldwide under whose hood we were allowed to look. The Saab is currently for sale in the Netherlands.

That's it: Saab 9-5 II, V6 Diesel from VM Motori
That's it: Saab 9-5 II, V6 Diesel from VM Motori

Text: tom@saabblog.net

Image: saabblog.net

 

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phibo
phibo
10 years earlier

I am familiar with VM Motori - the diesel in the new Maserati Ghibli comes from this company. O-Ton im Spiegel: Not particularly innovative, not particularly cultivated, but it has a lot of oomph.

Heiko
Heiko
10 years earlier

Clarify us on Tom!

René
René
10 years earlier

Hello Klaus
I had the same problem last year with my Turbo-x
I had an ignition coil ...
After then all were changed (price shock) the engine ran smoothly again

Good luck

Sunny greetings from Luxembourg

Dominic
Dominic
10 years earlier

I also believe that it is a BMW engine. Apparently in Trollhättan a few of these engines mysteriously disappeared?

Perret
Perret
10 years earlier

or it is the much-spoken Italian-derived 3.0l V6TTID in the 9-5 II

saab_owl
saab_owl
10 years earlier
Reply to  Perret

VM Motori? I do not think so.

Perret
Perret
10 years earlier

Everything speaks for an Insignia OPC V6 Turbo, only the oil filler neck is slightly eccentric.

So certainly no BMW, no Mercedes ... all AMI.

USAaber
USAaber
10 years earlier

Might this be a V8 GM 9 5?

GM always wanted more cylinders, but the first V6 was a real dog. Ugh ...

the saabler
10 years earlier

Since I have so no idea of ​​engines, I once quite unprejudiced image comparison, after division and arrangement of the aggregates I recognize most likely the two below

Mercedes W211 S211 W164 W221 engine cover E320 CDI V6

http://wot.motortrend.com/2014-cadillac-cts-420-hp-twin-turbo-v-6-0-60-mph-in-46-seconds-343061.html#axzz2NuTfg68V

but really only picture puzzles

saab_owl
saab_owl
10 years earlier

For me this is a GM 3.0 L V6 LF3

phibo
phibo
10 years earlier

Reminds me of the cover more to BMW, but the separate oil dipstick reminds me of the GM-V6, which was already installed in the 900 (ii).

saab_owl
saab_owl
10 years earlier

The silver exterior color would tempt me to guess on a study, Phoenix and AERO-X are not, Saab 9-6 SUV will probably have the Tribeca-Subaru V6 (and it definitely isn't) ...

There's a part number on the black intake air duct, I'm reading something like:

132.428.35 and in the end it looks like bosses from AA (or at least 44)? Seems to be a GM (including Saab) part number.

René
René
10 years earlier

I'm pretty sure it's the transversely mounted V6 in 9-4X

Greif08
Greif08
10 years earlier

Of course, it would be really exciting when it comes to the future! And no gleaning is of what was or could have been!

gustyx
gustyx
10 years earlier

... and maybe the unnamed company was in the bidding war ... Mercedes

gustyx
gustyx
10 years earlier
Reply to  gustyx

... is of course speculative ...

gustyx
gustyx
10 years earlier

think almost that is a transversely mounted, slightly modified V6 Mercedes-Benz (installed in the 350ern)

alexandros
10 years earlier
Reply to  gustyx

... or 320 CDI?

matze local
10 years earlier

From the cover it has only reminded me of the V6 from Mercedes Benz, but on closer inspection comes the 3 liter V6 diesel from BMW the best way. http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/202/4430/46159084/dc-v6-cdi-041223-02-8379587600792043093.jpg

ROBERTS
ROBERTS
10 years earlier
Reply to  matze local

I am quite sure that BMW 6 cylinder only builds as a series 6er and has no V6 in the program. There are only V8 and V12 V-engines. The sticker in the picture seems so synonymous V10 (old M5 / M6) or V12 (7er and Rolls) represent.

Piet-Hein Bad
Piet-Hein Bad
10 years earlier

9000 V8? 😉 no, I think it's a 9-5 3.0V6 diesel here ...

Torsten
10 years earlier

It's a black and white Saab V6turbo. I'm pretty sure…. 😉

Klaus 9-5II
Klaus 9-5II
10 years earlier

In any case it looks a bit different from the cover than in my 2008 9-3 V6 turbo convertible….

Where we are on the subject of V6 Turbo:
Mine (256PS version) unfortunately causes problems when I accelerate fully, almost regardless of the speed and only when the gas pedal is fully depressed: Then it jerks and jerks briefly ... Feels like turning the ignition key briefly to the left , always just a few moments, strange.
Ignition ?, turbo pressure control valve? No idea. Someone an idea?
Sorry if I use the picture puzzle for my little problems ... 😉

Greetings!
Klaus

Klaus 9-5II
Klaus 9-5II
10 years earlier
Reply to  Klaus 9-5II

Addendum:
I just took a photo of my 2-8 V6 turbo engine from the same perspective, printed it out and compared it. - Looks completely different, this is definitely not a Holden V6.
The voltage increases!

Helmut 900S 16V Turbo
Helmut 900S 16V Turbo
10 years earlier
Reply to  Klaus 9-5II

If you are not Klaus from Hd: Check (leave) the electrical contacts on the injection nozzles. They report to the control unit how much fuel or when fuel is being injected ... On my old 900, some from Bosch are installed. I had some jerking every now and then while driving. Plug contacts and the rubber seals have been replaced with new ones and peace and quiet is… .Can also the distributor, the spark plugs (age-related) be…? Remote diagnostics are bad for something like that.

Georg Müller
Georg Müller
10 years earlier
Reply to  Klaus 9-5II

Hello Klaus, I know that. Had that with mine too and I'm almost desperate. After many pit stops in my garage we found the problem this spring. It is a control relay. I can ask my mechanic what exactly and contact me Georg

Saab 9-5II
Saab 9-5II
10 years earlier
Reply to  Georg Müller

Thank you (!!!) for the answers, the next Saab workshop is more than 80 kilometers away from me and I am happy if I can narrow down the problem through experience reports ...

EF-moose
EF-moose
10 years earlier
Reply to  Klaus 9-5II

I think that one of the six DI “ignition coils” is slowly passing, symptoms are the same. It's not that rare. If you're lucky, one from the front bench, it's easier to switch.

Heiko
Heiko
10 years earlier

Is a BMW cover on it. Do not think that it is a v6. Think this is a BMW test engine.

cmd
cmd
10 years earlier

So, the 9-5 II V6 looks different, at least mine. The 9-4X V6 should actually be the same.

Zirkoski
Zirkoski
10 years earlier

No, no Holden engine. He looks a bit different. NEVS can not be either, they would not have the griffin. So a prototype?

Anddeu
Anddeu
10 years earlier

Is it the 9-5 II diesel prototype?

Klaus 9-5 II Vector
Klaus 9-5 II Vector
10 years earlier

Yes, I also appreciate a Holden engine.

René
René
10 years earlier

I think it's a 9-4X 2.8L V6

Erik_HRO
Erik_HRO
10 years earlier

Well that would have to be the engine compartment of an 9-5 NG with the 2,8L V6 engine. Either brand new or well cleaned!