SAAB News. Saab EV is ready to start.

About the Sweden radio came more good news from the Saab factory. Early next year, the first electric Saabs in the sedan version will be on their way to China. The final assembly takes place in Quingdao, where batteries and electric motors are installed. The energy sources come from Beijing National Battery Technology, another company from the realm of NEVS founder Kai Johan Jiang.

Bejiing National Battery Technology

At present, two more battery factories are under construction in China, and the existing plant is fully utilized to supply battery-powered buses. According to press chief Mikael Östlund, 80% of the parts of the EV are identical to the gasoline version. The city of Quindao ordered the first 200 Saab 9-3 EV on the penultimate Monday.

The market for electric vehicles is growing rapidly in China, so NEVS comes on the market with the new products at the right time. The government subsidizes the purchase of an electric car with around 6.600,00 €, the city of Quingdao again adds the same amount. In addition, the state-owned electricity company, which works closely with NEVS founder Kai Johan Jiang, plans to build 220.000 (!) Charging stations along China's East Coast.

According to Mikael Östlund, the first Saab electric car should have a range of 200 kilometers, less than expected. However, batteries and powertrain are continually being optimized, so the range will increase. When and if the Saab EV will appear on the market in Sweden, is currently unclear. Whether it is distributed via the Internet or through the traditional dealer structures, is currently not decided. In any case, in China, NEVS is in negotiations with commercial companies that will sell the new electric car.

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The next generation of electric vehicles from Trollhättan will be based on the Phoenix platform and will probably appear 2016. The vehicle, which is optimized in terms of reach and weight, will then have similar values ​​to the Tesla products. The differences between conventional drives and the new generation of vehicles will disappear more and more.

Decisive for the success of the concept will be the expansion of the infrastructure in the form of charging stations. China is driving this forward with power. Probably with this background, the decision of NEVS to put on the Chinese map, the only correct. Sweden, on the other hand, is lagging behind in electromobility in countries like Norway and Denmark and has a lot of investment needs. And Germany? It seems to be very slow with us, but we are not the key market for NEVS.

Text: tom@saabblog.net

Picture: Beijing National Battery Technology

16 thoughts on "SAAB News. Saab EV is ready to start."

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    On the subject of CO2 ... our little one is just 4 months old and with all the diapers she has no chance of a good CO2 balance again. 😉

    From a range of 400Km we are there, that gives me security and a buffer, it should be times -10C be from the 400Km just 250Km or.

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    Electric vehicles are not necessarily the "over-eco vehicles". Production can be more environmentally harmful - I can say, because I don't know whether that applies everywhere - including batteries and such.

    Even if you look at the CO2 emissions of an electric vehicle, it does not necessarily have to be better than a vehicle with an internal combustion engine. First of all, it depends on where you drive the vehicle and how to refuel it. Because as long as the vehicle is traveling in Germany and is not powered by a solar or wind turbine on its own roof, you have to take the German electricity mix as a basis.

    And here you can quickly get to regions where combustion engine vehicles are located. Because 127g / km or 136g / km for the Tesla S (60kWh or 86kWh) are close to the 139g / km of the 9-5 II 2.0 TiD or above the values ​​of the current BMW 518d / 520d - with 119g / km . Only for Germany, mind you.

    If you go to neighboring Switzerland and Austria, things look very different. If you take the local power mix, the Tesla knows only 26,9g / km or 28,7g / km (Switzerland) or 34,2g / km or 36,5g / km (Austria).
    Of course, an electric vehicle is still driving in Sweden, because the Tesla only emits 3,3g / km or 3,5g / km.
    Of course, the reason can be found very quickly in the electricity production of the respective countries. So you can not say flat-rate how environmentally friendly a vehicle is in principle.

    Regarding the range, I understand the concerns. However, the development of charging stations is also moving forward. So if it is actually possible in 2014/15 to charge an 85kWh battery within 10 minutes (Tesla plans as far as I know) to 80%, then you still have more break times on a 1000km long route than with a petrol / diesel, but that is no longer as important as it was at the beginning of electromobility or currently. So you may have to “fill up” 3 times - that is, 30 minutes - while I definitely have to fill up once with a petrol car - refueling + paying can sometimes take less than 1 minutes.
    Besides, you should always take a break anyway.

    Greetings from Christian from Zwickau

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      Actually, my contribution referred to that of GP362 and was selected as the answer. Well, no matter.

      Still something to the article itself:

      Very good if the share of e-vehicles in China and above all the city is steadily rising. I find the action of the Chinese government very commendable. You can say what you want about China, but here China shows foresight and innovative spirit. We Germans with our uneinholbar superior engineering knowledge, it does not even state on the line to build a few e-gas stations, let alone promote the electromobility meaningful (except for BMW vll.) And the government, there are only any dream figures and desired goals.
      China, on the other hand, is “just building” 220.000 e-filling stations and subsidizing e-mobility more and more. But they don't have such a strong “diesel lobby” either.

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      This was a very informative and illuminating reader comment on the C02 aspect. Many Thanks!

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        Thank you for the praise. I strive to continue to contribute such contributions.

        Greetings from Christian from Zwickau

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    The meaning of an electric car depends very much on the personal movement profile of the user. Useless for a sales representative, it would make sense for us in the family. I have a relatively short way to work and only have to hit the slopes occasionally, because there is probably no new conventional car with technology from the last millennium, we all agree on that.
    For the long hauls then the SAAB collection is used, which is also really fun.

    We recently took a look at the BMW i3, which is a nice device. However, I fear that the 17-hp rear-wheel drive with the high torque of the electric motor will still give drivers a lot of “pleasure” in winter.

    I think pushing a hybrid in between overstrains the space of a 9-3, which also becomes too heavy (see Volvo V60 plug-in hybrid with 1,8 tons - no thanks!).

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    What is more environmentally friendly? Oil rigs, flare excess gas out there? Production, transport and disposal of such? Transport with oil tankers, chemical treatment to gasoline? Storage in distant oil ports, transport by truck to my gas station? And finally the combustion in the engine?
    I do believe that electricity is more environmentally friendly ... at least I'll build a carport with a PV system. Use the electricity you generate yourself, better than coal electricity from the Ruhr area.
    My next SAAB will be an EV!
    Now I drive two Biopower, so I'm already in that direction.

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      When it comes to power generation, as a naive layman, I also believe in better “environmental compatibility” ... just not with the batteries and therefore possibly “as a whole”.

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    Uiii ... now the "accelerator" is apparently really being pushed! Very nice! 🙂

    I would like to be convinced of electric cars.
    But are they really that environmentally friendly (keyword: batteries, battery replacement and disposal, power generation)?
    And even a “larger” range of 300/400 km is actually somehow not enough for a “full-fledged” car to consider the electric drive as a “sensible alternative” (it may be different with a city runabout). Hmmm ….

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      Keyword environmentally friendly. The battery of the small Tesla with the Lotus Karrosserie is composed of around 7800 mobile phone batteries. And somehow that does not seem to be really eco-friendly to me, when everyone is traveling around with 7800 phones !? But maybe gas somebody can explain that to us. But please also consider extraction and disposal of all toxic substances in the batteries. And of course the power product. The bottom line is there in my opinion nothing left. On the contrary.

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        That always makes me wonder.

        When I think about how long (even good) rechargeable batteries last in various devices and what an “effort” to collect and recycle batteries and rechargeable batteries is already being carried out in general.

        And now you have to imagine "millions" of huge batteries in cars in addition ...

        I'm always torn ...

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        Tesla is using a different technology than NEVS. Lithium Ion vs Lithium Iron Phosphate technology. Due to these “cell phone batteries”, the Tesla has a long range, but is also said to be “highly dangerous”. In the last mirror there was a good article about the risks and side effects at Tesla.
        Of course, the environmental footprint of batteries is not very clear, actually the concepts are that old batteries from e-buses and cars continue to be used for stationary energy storage after use.

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    Black or white and nothing in between?

    What about a hybrid? The Phoenix was developed as such ...

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    Can only hope that not only the Chinese market is the goal. If the range is right and the charging time is low, the next neighbor could become a Stromer. Anyway, the next one will be a turbo petrol engine. Until then, we will also know where the journey with NEVS goes.

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    Sorry, now I have read correctly - what a shame - I was hoping for an earlier date for the EV-SAAB in the garage ...

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    Now I wrote a few minutes ago that I would wait for the Stromer - but NEVS, please don't send the EV-SAABs from Sweden to China and then back again, or ...... ?!

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