Tesla and BMW in Geneva

We rarely report on the German brands, because there seem to be 1.000 pages about them in the www, and the world doesn't need another one. But today we're making an exception! BMW shows models that are unusual for the brand's culture and is taking a different course than its competitors. BMW is proving this with the i8.

BMW i8 plug-in hybrid @ 2014 saabblog.net
BMW i8 plug-in hybrid @ 2014 saabblog.net

The Munich is not an electric car like the Tesla, but a plug-in hybrid. Deliveries begin in June, and according to BMW, in the start-up phase, demand clearly exceeds the production volume. The i362's 8 hp system power consists of a three-cylinder turbo gasoline engine with a maximum output of 231 hp and a maximum torque of 320 Newton meters, as well as a hybrid synchronous electric motor with a maximum output of 131 hp and a maximum torque of 250 Nm. The top speed of the BMW i8 is electronically set at 250 km / h. The price - € 126.000,00 - is self-confident.

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Three-cylinder in the high-priced sports car? How was that with the legendary inline six cylinders from Munich as an integral part of the brand? Mercedes has set its plans with supercharged three-cylinder engines a few days ago, BMW delivers. Courageous !

In addition to the i8, the Active Tourer celebrated its premiere. Front-wheel drive, van, mini platform, but still a BMW and - as Mark noted - the nicer B-Class. At the moment everything seems to be working out well for the people of Munich, and they now also occupy the smallest niche. We'll see whether this is good for the brand in the long term.

You could see how confidently BMW ticks at the press conference. While the representatives of Daimler and Opel were in English, Reithofer naturally spoke German. Logical! “We san we! ”We are confident and BMW is a successful German company.

Tesla S

Another success story Tesla writes. The Americans are also traveling in the old Europe and make their infrastructure with charging stations across the continent.

If you were thinking about Apple Car Play and the integration at Volvo yesterday, you have to be really brave with the Tesla ... or stop reading. With the Americans everything is one size bigger, the monitor is a proud 17 ″ in portrait format. There are hardly any buttons in the interior, everything is controlled via the touchscreen. NEVS sees the Tesla as a role model and is pursuing a similar strategy for what will come on the Phoenix platform in a few years.

Tesla S with 17 inch monitor @ 2014 saabblog.net
Tesla S with 17 inch monitor @ 2014 saabblog.net

Mark and Yves had a specific assignment in Geneva. Last year, I did not like the workmanship and material selection. Too little value for the premium class, too American, that was my opinion. Tesla has refilled, everything in the issued model for Europe seems better and higher quality processed than in the year 2013.

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The topic Tesla is exciting and will accompany us on the blog for the next months. More about the innovative manufacturer from the USA coming soon on the blog.

Text: tom@saabblog.net

Images yves & mark for saabblog.net


8 thoughts on "Tesla and BMW in Geneva"

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    In my view, Tesla and BMW (and hopefully soon NEVS) really for the future.

    Vehicles are developed and built here that not only regard alternative automobility as a “fashionable” by-product, but promote it.

    With the i8, I can only hope that this time BMW has dispensed with carbon fiber parts, such as the i3, because they have a significant shortage. With visible carbon parts is, if at all, only a thin clearcoat layer above and BMW pretends that with scratches with a penetration depth of 0,2mm (yes, no spelling mistakes) the carbon part should / should be replaced. The whole thing was not really thought out yet. But in the pictures, it looks like that's not the case.

    Nevertheless, the i3, the i8 and the Model S from Tesla are, in my opinion, the most advanced things on the market. I'm already looking forward to the model X and E from Telsa and the electric vehicle from NEVS - hopefully it will have a slightly futuristic design (in terms of headlights, fittings, etc.) - I like that.

    Unfortunately, I now experience first-hand how time-consuming such a vehicle or even only development of aggregates is.

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    I always have to think about the PhoeniX study in wing construction on the i8. In any case, courageous paths of both companies and hopefully crowned with success.

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    Tesla-Motors has had a business close to Hamburg Airport for a few months.

    An employee can be seen regularly with a red Tesla limousine when he is using the FAMILA parking lot for shopping. A crowd of people immediately forms around the silent car with the white inscription “1% electric” - great admiration follows!

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    BMW is currently taking interesting paths and sets itself clearly apart from the other domestic manufacturers, really brave.

    But again to the touch screens: The operation of ship radars is relatively complicated and earlier had the devices knobs and buttons in logically arranged fields. Then, at the end of the 90er, the manufacturers took practical technology Freeks and the operation was switched to trackball, three mouse buttons and annoying menus. If it has to be fast, a disaster! Nowadays, really modern devices have buttons for the important functions.
    What is now being presented as particularly progressive and IN at the trade fairs reminds me of the crap that we have already left behind on many ships. But the ipad generation is sure to find it g ...!

    More important is the technology under the sheet than an ipad in the cockpit.

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      Well, that's just modern. But what speaks against a touchscreen in the car in principle - apart from the lack of feedback when touched (can be compensated by a click sound) - is a mystery to me.

      You can even arrange the menus on a touch screen (yes, the German language: D) so that each point is executed with a single tap. In addition, (!!!) such a control can enable a much faster operation, which I only just wipe once and go through my music albums, until the right one comes and then I just type it again. For devices without touch-sensitive screen I have to tap / turn until the music album is reached and then confirm. But you can not tap / turn as fast as the collection of albums rushes through the former. Of course this is just a CAN and depends on the design of the consumer electronics environment.

      But one more question:
      what is the ipad generation? At the age of 25, who grew up with “386 computers” and only uses his smartphone to listen to music, make phone calls and write short messages, do I already count? Or rather my in-laws, who at around 50 years of age are of the opinion that there has to be an Ipad 4 and an Iphone 5 per person in the household and books should only be read as eBooks on the Ipad - otherwise you won't be able to do anything can survive more?

      I don't want to start an argument, but meanwhile one can simply no longer say “Yes, the youth - this is the generation….”, As it might have been when my grandfather was still enjoying his youth and the old for rock 'n roll only had a shake of the head left.
      This whole infotainment gossip is pissing me off - I don't want Facebook, Twitter or even the Internet in the car - I don't want to be without motion-sensitive screens (I think it's class: D). Because that is IN and sensible.

      In this sense, a nice weekend and best regards from Schü.

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        They provide the answer themselves. Age does not determine the maturity for mobile, digital maturity. In this sense, nice weekend :-)

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        The touchscreen is a fad, and in its current form does not do justice to the principles of ergonomics.

        On the phone or tablet, it has its function, reduction in optics with almost daily increasing functionality.

        This massive expansion of the function can also be observed in the automobile (I fundamentally question the usefulness of these functional expansions!) - but things become problematic if you want to use this range of functions while driving. This will overwhelm many operators (former drivers).

        A nice summary to the different view of the automaker can be found here: http://www.pcwelt.de/ratgeber/Exkurs-Touchscreen_im_Auto_-_Pro_und_Contra-8513127.html

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          Interestingly enough, touch screens and their often animated surfaces like to simulate real and analog worlds ...
          For example a rattling “setting wheel” with virtual friction and inertia, with which you can set the alarm clock on the iPhone.
          Or the "locking" button on a flashlight app.

          Apparently, the propagator of virtuality is aware that this is not so touchy then. Why else would you always lean on them for mechanical, print media or anything else real?

          With the manufacturers of cameras, a strong trend can be observed not only for retro design but also for corresponding operating elements. For example, for a direct access to the exposure correction by means of a clean in one-third increments and actually existing adjustment knob, which had started from the 1990er retreat and had recently completely disappeared. Today, testers and users are actually bouncing around paying homage to the ergonomic benefits of such cameras.

          The (touch) screen as an all-encompassing operating concept rarely makes sense. Certain features do not belong in the depth of any menus moved. Especially not if the distraction from traffic should be kept as short and small as possible. I totally agree.

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