Navigation Update for the Saab 9-3 (Part 1)

The most recent software for the official Saab 9-3 comes from the year 2010. Even from this series only a few copies came into circulation, so that the mass of 9-3 drivers with even older versions is on the way.

Navigation Update for the SAAB 9-3 © 2014 saabblog.net
Navigation Update for the SAAB 9-3 © 2014 saabblog.net

The topic is a hot topic for some Saab riders, and the bad news is that there will be no replenishment from Sweden. This is definite and not negotiable. The management of Orio AB has taken this decision and communicated for reasons that are incomprehensible to us. A clear annoyance and incomprehensible, because for the company from Nyköping it would have been a safe deal.

To prevent any misunderstandings: the lack of supplies is not due to the lack of commitment from the German branch. The topic was topical every time I went there and was emphatically represented to Nyköping. Perhaps, that is also possible, but the update does not fail because of Nyköping, but is a licensing problem in which Detroit has a say. However, problems are there to be solved.

Navigation Update for 45,00 €?

Various sources of navigation software exist on the Internet, and we tested two of them for ourselves in a self-experiment. It starts with the NavEuro software, which promises a 2013 map status. The site itself is a bit dubious, the imprint is missing. Actually, the mind says “finger away”, all warning lights should now light up. But we have a mission as a blog and want to test what is offered there. So we invest € 45,00 for our test.

The fact that a Chinese address appears as a payee at the time of purchase does not really increase our trust.

But two days later, the Navisoftware, which was sent from Spain, in our mailbox. Should I have been wrong? Not good is the absence of the bill, and otherwise there are no accompanying documents.

The tension increases, even if the feeling is very skeptical. On the same day I test the DVD, which promises a current map status.

Read error during navigation

The test does not start well. On the first try, my device does not recognize the software, only ejecting it again and inserting again causes the navigation system to load the DVD. All this is slow and audible reader sounds, which I do not know from the original DVD. The result is strange. I can not see a map, just a white field, but can enter a navigation destination. I program our Saab Hangar to meet with friend Achim there and start the Turbo X. On the way there, I see the streets in crossroads in the detail image, while the main map remains empty. But, and that is the only good news at this point in time, the stand seems up-to-date and all new building measures in my environment are familiar with the system.

At the Saab hangar, the software changes the device. The DVD is now moving from the Turbo X from 2008 to the Aero TTiD from 2008. The result is a new variant. The TTiD shows the map, but no intersection areas. And the map scale cannot be changed on either device. And there is another surprise. Back in the Turbo X, a miracle happens. Suddenly all the maps are there, and even the POIs can be called up and displayed. Which, according to NavEuro, shouldn't work. However, the map scale still cannot be changed. Happy ending with start-up problems?

Back on the A3 then the disillusionment. The DVD gets out with reading errors. A look at the DVD later shows where the problems come from. In direct comparison with what comes from the factory, we see that the software supplied by NavEuro is supplied on DVD media, which is available in every computer shop. It is not media from one of the manufacturers' copying plants. My Saab navigation system has problems with these “home-made” DVDs and crashes at some point with reading errors.

Problems with “self-burned” media

However, this does not happen in every 9 3. Because over the years, 2008 and 2009 lasers with different quality have been installed. If you're lucky, you have a high-quality reader that reads the software without any problem. Who not, he was unlucky, like me. Alternatively, but you can install a new laser, which is recommended, because then all self-burned should be read without problems.

An issue that interests us for a number of reasons, and we will write about the problem of polluted or inferior lasers at a later date.

The test result

It is undisputed that NavEuro supplies goods with up-to-date maps. I don't even want to speculate about the sources from which the material comes. Also with regard to the licensing background and what Navteq would have to say about it, that would probably be a topic in itself.

The fact is that vehicles can cause problems that lead to a system crash of the navigation system. It is also a fact that in none of the tested vehicles was the displayed map scale to be changed. Readers who use the software also report the same problem.

So there is no purchase recommendation from our side. We kept searching and testing. The next software test for our Saab 9-3 navigation, from another source, comes on Tuesday.

25 thoughts on "Navigation Update for the Saab 9-3 (Part 1)"

  • Can you hear Youtube videos on the stereo? Siri-input? Microfunction of Whatsapp?

  • Have now installed the Alpine INE-925r. The car electrician has almost backflung until he could integrate the thing in the BUS system of the vehicle. Parrot does not need it anymore. Now also the steering wheel operation, the telephone and the I-Phone connection works. Traffic announcements stop music from the I-Phone. The I-Phone is integrated with a Brodit adapter in the vehicle and connected via USB cable to the device.

  • That just does not work. Do not know what the manufacturers thought, but they probably had dollar signs in their eyes. In any case, I will not buy a car with built-in navigation system, but continue to use my smartphone. Both the device and the software are always up to date. And from the car manufacturers, I demand a better integration into the acoustic part of the vehicle.

    Is there even a manufacturer who stops the iPod function of the smartphone during traffic announcements on the radio?

  • The best and cheapest is still TomTom mobile, only this cable

  • How right you are. There is another Swedish brand

  • I'm curious. Personally, I have now after the first map update very big problems with the map / navigation. The music and telephone works well, but it can not stay the way it is.

  • The Kenwood can be integrated very well into the 9-3. We also have something to write about during the week ...

  • I also tried the dubious version from England, unfortunately no result - reading errors. The money was allegedly transferred back to PayPal, so I'll have a look at my next credit card statement. The second attempt was via Hirsch AG St. Gallen. Read error again, although the one remaining original DVD from 2009 is still recognized without any problems, DVD No. 2 has already passed.
    I think about an Alpine ICS X8 device, which is easily installable, hard drive with offline Nokia navigation. But have no idea what quality the congestion bypass has. And it's expensive too.

  • Hello everyone, you speak of the NAVIS with big screen ?? But what about the other Saab drivers / inside who still have the small Navis ?? Is there anything to report about update`s, or you can hear how I heard the CD from the Mazda 6 Bj.2005. Can someone say something there

  • The dealer of my confidence wanted 200 € for an update. Without me!
    I come from a time when I came to the destination without GPS. And so I will do this again in case of need.
    I can do without Tom's “experiments”! Nevertheless, a report that is pleasant to read, even if the result is flat.

  • Hoi Tom.
    ... yes, everything really works for me as it does on the original. The scale can also be changed without any problems…. kind of strange that it doesn't work the same everywhere!

  • The DVD does not run reliably in two tested vehicles, which could also be due to the quality of the lasers and possible soiling. My TX does not seem to like “self-burned” media on principle. Can you change the map scale?

  • Hi all.
    I am now a bit surprised that the DVD is not playing for you Tom. I have been using mine in my Turbo X since December 2013 and can only report positive things (at least until today). The update worked perfectly for me from the start and the street information also seems to be very up-to-date (for Switzerland). ... but of course it can also be that, as you write, I installed a “newer laser” ... Oh and by the way: I got my update DVD's from Hirsch AG.

    Es Grüessli from the south ...

  • @ TOM: Try the difference between DVD-R and DVD + R ... Ie now take a medium of the other kind and burn it s.besten ne good quality and slowly.

  • Tom, copy the DVD in a PC / MAC. Burn at the slowest possible speed, then test again 🙂 Sometimes works wonders ...

  • Yes, that with “outdated map material” is very annoying.
    That's not only true for Saab, but also for many others. But with Saab it is very clear. Too bad that the need for the successors (Orio / NEVS) probably not see.

    For my system (SAAB / Kenwood / Touchsceen) I bought the official and “latest” DVD for my 2002 station wagon at a very expensive price. But even there I actually bought some “older” map material (which I was aware of). 🙁

    But since I generally want to keep the “original” look of the car and the entire audio system (both software and hardware), I am currently using an iPhone / Navigon / gooseneck solution. That actually works quite well (especially since I have more functions and traffic information on the map with the iPhone than with the old SAAB / Kenwood system). And it's not very expensive for me either, because I have the phone anyway and the navigation app was a one-time edition.

    This is what it looks like for me:
    http://www.tourwrist.com/panos/65191
    http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=b3e3b8-1395662794.jpg

  • My version is old, but I always arrived

  • Also think that a complete exchange is the easiest and most sensible solution. But that's probably the bitter pill you have to swallow as a Saab driver.

  • Thanks for the test! Was already close to the order and have now saved 45 €

  • Absolutely incomprehensible that Orio is not engaged in this area and leaves us a Gebastel. One can only emphasize that customer service is one of the prerequisites if you want to be part of the next vehicle purchase.

    I also tried for my 9-5 Aero from 2007 to find a map update and used a newer CD from the Range Rover Sport out of necessity. That went well for a while, then the reading unit was broken. Because no official source of SAAB support came, I replaced the Navi now with a current Alpine device.

    A shame on an 6-year-old vehicle.

  • Customize open-street maps yourself.

  • For me this “solution” is 45, - € too expensive. Better old cards than cards that may or may not work.

    I'm looking forward to more alternatives.

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