Saab 9000 Anna Project (Part 7) Billing.

In the meantime Anna has become a daily companion. The start was not easy, but we made friends. Old cars have character - and peculiarities. There are mysterious places that Anna doesn't like, which makes them unmistakably clear.

A look back: Anna project at Lafrentz in Kiel.
A look back: Anna project at Lafrentz in Kiel.

The exit of a very specific parking garage as an example. Traffic light red. Side window open, it starts to rain. The window regulator is dead, the window remains open. Traffic light green, Saab drives off, everything works innocently at a distance of 100 meters. And will continue to do so. Until one day the Saab is back at this traffic light. This time it is the sunroof that is dead. And 100 meters further, of course ...

The explanation for the life of the 9000, a masterpiece of Swedish engineering from the 80s: at this specific location there is a hotspot, a broadcasting point for company radio, and several exits controlled by radio. 1980 a theme for Perry Rhodan's novels. 35 years later fact. Electrosmog - the Saab can't stand that.

For Anna, the moment of truth comes today on the blog. Time for the reckoning and the opportunity to ask questions about the future.

What is a Saab 9000 worth?

To find out, we commissioned a Dekra expert. Anna wasn't quite finished at this point, but it wasn't about the final price, the trend was important and the opportunity was good. The condition was rated 2-3, the price was 8.000,00 €. The clear history has not been incorporated, the interior was not yet perfect. Today Anna is complete, the Saab 9000 should be a 2. Worth a little more, but still shockingly little.

The tendency of Saab 9000 prices is increasing, but only because the market is almost empty. Restored or well-cared-for 2 Series cars do not actually take place, a fate that the 9000 shares with other vehicles from the 80s and 90s. The reality is frustrating, and very rarely does a well-kept 9000 from retirees come onto the market. Scrap and consumer vehicles dominate. Let's be honest - given the current price structure, they are not worth renovating. As is always the case with vehicles in this price range, investments in materials and work are never returned.

Where is the Saab 9000 future?

The blog mission 2015 was to write the 9000 out of the no-man's-land of forgetting. This has succeeded in parts, we were able to inspire some readers for the first, big Saab. Some fans have rediscovered the 9k for themselves and keep the hatchback Saab on the road with much love.

What's the future like? Enthusiasm for not very young sheet metal is not a question of age, it is a matter of enjoying technology, style and driving culture. The compact dimensions and ease of use are appreciated. You move away from the compulsion to consume, discover that you can spend your money on more fun things than on new cars.

BMW is doing it, Mercedes has been around for a long time, Porsche is stepping up its activities on the subject of classics and youngtimers. The first Porsche Center opens in Arnhem, the Netherlands - only for classic cars. In the future there will be Swabian classics straight from the manufacturer, with leasing, financing and a guarantee just like a new car. The path for everyone who wants to drive and enjoy, but neither screw themselves nor want to expose themselves to the vabise game of buying a car on gravel places.

Why not Saab, why not Orio AB? There was that Ida project - the idea that was aloud in Sweden to offer factory restorations in the future. Actually logical, if not mandatory. Orio has a unique selling point, the supply of Saab original parts. A restoration center for every important market, operated by Orio or in cooperation with a national partner. That would be more than just strengthening your own competence.

The business, beyond the mainstream brands, has already recognized our neighbors. The Dutch are doing it Saab Youngtimer Lease again before. The target group, self-employed, tradespeople, would be grateful for leasing for individual, crazy interpretation of Swedish locomotion. Other brands have long had this in their everyday lives. The Citroen CX, a vehicle whose classic career I follow with great sympathy, is available as a leasing object in a new car condition. The prices are around € 30.000, CX Basis in Karlsruhe has been successfully dedicated to the hydropneumatic topic for 40 years.

The more computers with animated and virtual cockpits roll on our streets, the more sought-after engineering skills of the 80s and 90s. Survivors Saab 9000 will be one of them.

Part 7 was not the last part of the Saab 9000 Anna project. There is more. It is also clear that Anna will not stay forever. Eventually, with a heavy heart, she will have to make room for a new project vehicle. Since I think that Saabs should be moved and not be bored in halls, we will have to look for a new home.

18 thoughts on "Saab 9000 Anna Project (Part 7) Billing."

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    A CX is a diva. Extremely beautiful - but can be very moody. It is all the more important to have someone on hand who is familiar with it. After a GSA Pallas in the family that was super reliable, I bought a used CX in the early 90s. Fantastically comfortable to drive, but the repairs were very expensive.
    I think the BX, XM and Xantia are also great cars that deserve more attention. I also drove XM and Xantia V6 myself. Repairs are very time consuming and expensive because everything is completely installed. Since the French could have looked in Trollhättan something. The drinking habits are also not of cardboard. But it always made fun on the highway TDIs to annoy with these missiles. They did not see it exactly like the Anna project did.
    The classic French share the fate of most 80 and 90er cars. Maybe it's a matter of time before natural selection decimates the number of vehicles until it becomes interesting for collectors.

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    CX, in the early 80s I had one, a Pallas! Great car with quirks. Today I keep checking the Cxs on Mobile, but I would rather put a 9000 in the stable. It would have to be an Aero and it would have to be red, because I could get weak! (my biggest problem, how do I tell it at home that an 8th vehicle will be added ...)

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    The prices at the CX Basis are also the end of the flagpole, which also applies to the spare parts prices there. Sure, completely rebuilt vehicles cost their money, but rebuilt 901 CVs are also offered in this price range, but do not reflect the price that you have to pay for a reasonable and very good copy. These vehicles are aimed more at people who buy such a car to put it in the collection and less to drive it. Value-reducing kilometers could accumulate on the speedometer ... Anyone who absolutely needs an investment should buy art! Cars are there to be driven. I am very sympathetic to this American who has now covered 1800 million miles with his Volvo 1,8ES (?). The car isn't a ridden cart either.

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    I've always been a fan of the CX. Against the old-fashioned stuff of German origin, this car was from another time. A study trip to Paris shortly before my Abitur was like a trip to TH for me back then. You didn't even know where to look first ...
    Unfortunately, the CX lacks a crucial detail that I couldn't live without then and now - the large tailgate. That's why it became a 80CC at the end of the 9000s ... until today's CS / CSE.

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    Great idea to donate Saab Yougtimer lease.
    There will certainly be some interest before. Such a lease company could have some weird car brands on offer to make business sense.
    But Tom, never give your 9000 a lease but keep it yourself.

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    The question is, is there enough vehicles and willing to buy that can survive in the long run and money is earned !? The interiors (900II, 9-3I) could be raised with today's possibilities to a higher level, as far as the surfaces are concerned. The design is timelessly beautiful.

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      I can only reflect my observation that I make with some Saab partners. The yard is full of classics and youngtimers, from 99 to 900 and 9000 everything is there. And is always more. I think that's a good trend, but not more. What Orio / Saab will partner with is the other question. The potential is there for sure.

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        This looks like a plea for a new business model for SAAB bases. Sense could definitely do something like that.
        According to your calculation, a good 9000 should cost around 10 euros.
        Whether then the enthusiasm of the fans and Orio accompanied by the willingness to get involved, will show.

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          That's it. Maybe a medium-term perspective. Whether Orio will occupy this field is questionable, the current strategy in Nyköping goes in another direction. But if Orio does not, somebody else will.
          A restored 9000 from a specialist company would have to cost from 15.000,00 to get the bill right. We don't have this situation yet, maybe in a few years. Restored 900 are currently traded between 20 - 30 k, convertibles also more expensive. Other countries are showing how a Saab can be expensive. There is a lot of catching up to do in Germany.

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            15 for a good 000? Why not, when the car is faultless and well maintained. If you read magazines from the old or youngtimer scene, completely different amounts are spent on vehicles that never go on the road again.

            I have just bought a new car as a business vehicle and calculate with about the same amount as a copyist in the first 1.5 years.

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              The price relativizes itself additionally, if one thinks over how much automobile Neuwagenlangeweile exists for 15.000 €.

              BTW: Do you stay with new cars of the Saab family?

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            A SAAB fan, I'm sure, as a driver, unfortunately, no. I drive the 9-5 Aero now, until the new car is there, then separate our ways (unfortunately) and the SAAB goes into the exchange. The delivery date is KW 53.

            I am not a collector and now need a new car on business.

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            Of course, it's always the question of how it fits in with life. Someone who professionally tears down 40-60.000Km / year is certainly better off with a leasing box. The business model of the CX basis with absolutely dream-ready dream cars is a really interesting alternative.
            2007 there was an article in the WORLD on the subject, which is becoming more current:
            http://www.welt.de/lifestyle/article1085110/Warum-junge-Leute-spiessige-Autos-fahren.html

            To everyone a nice weekend!

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    How about a 9-5 OG Sportcombi of the first Face variant as a future project vehicle? After all, he was the direct successor and the first Combi from SAAB ...
    And it seems to me as if the fan scene has not really got the 9-5 OG on the list ... actually a shame ...

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      Our thoughts go in this direction ... The 9-5 OG needs a little more attention. Unfortunately, such projects cannot be financed with pocket money, and getting support for projects becomes more difficult for the blog every year. We will see…

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      I drive a 9-5 station wagon since May 1999. I'm very excited about him, even if I've already put a lot of money in there. But with Ratzmann in the background, the car is not broken. One does not look at the 16 years. He also ran only 230000 km. On long distance he runs super comfortable. I love him

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    Wow, the CX. Great! Did not really know that there is something like that. Probably only in the Francophile border area.

    Would that work with Saab? I have the impression that the 900 drivers are a bit quirky and peculiar. They're more likely to do it yourself than to buy. And whether the 9000 has the status of Saab traditionalists as the 900, or the CX Citroen drivers? Not sure. Even though he is my favorite Saab and I was totally disappointed with the 9-5.

    By the way, I somehow understand something else by billing. Expenses should somehow be in, hihi ...

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      The CX is a car that hardcore fans did not want to miss for decades. The CX base has been committed to the great Citroen for ages and has been dedicated to creating its own market and keeping French cultural assets alive. No idea what the 9000 looks like in 10 or 20 years, but almost everything is possible.

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