Weekly Review. Our look to China.

This week, the Saab signs were dismantled at the factory entrance. The End of an Epoch ... One of the logos will find its place at the Saab Museum. From now on, it will be up to NEVS to decide whether to make something out of the Saab DNA at the historic site despite abandoning the brand name.

BAIC X65 and BJ40
BAIC X65 and BJ40

The possibilities are there, and the coming months and years will make us smarter. If in the distant future the first, new vehicle from NEVS will be on the market, we can judge. But there is another company that deals with the Saab heritage. And it is the right time, right now, when in Trollhättan the lettering disappears to look at China.

BAIC and the Saab DNA

BAIC acquired 2009 rights to the Saab engines, the Saab 9-3 sedan and the old 9-5 generation. 2011 was about to take over Saab Automobile, but failed to Victor Muller. Since then, the BAIC brand Senova in China plays a clever game with the Saab heritage. In commercials flying Saab Jets, the Swedish roots and the Ursaab play a role. The Nightpanel is experiencing a comeback at BAIC, Saab turbo engines are driving off-road vehicles, SUVs and sedans.

BAIC has also been available in Germany since the summer of this year. A company from Landstuhl has started importing and the first shipment of Senova / BAIC new cars has already been sold to German customers. The next ocean freight from China is on its way, a dealer network is emerging, it is a story that is at the very beginning - and that is interesting.

Reservations against Chinese cars

For two reasons. How much Saab is in a BAIC? And how good are vehicles from China today? I remember several Chinese manufacturers who dared to go to the IAA. On the first day of the fair, the cars were released for inspection. The doors were closed the following day and all other days. Because the interiors decomposed themselves, and because material fumes had caused a hallucinogenic effect on the visitors.

With all my prejudices carefully collected over many years against Chinese vehicles, I traveled to the importer's warehouse this week. Of course with Anna, our blog company car, a symbol of Swedish engineering. I was not alone, a good friend was there. I asked for it because it was supposed to help me find an objective judgment.

For our readers, we drove two vehicles from BAIC. One with and one without Saab engine. What we experienced is equally disturbing and revealing. Reading the blog is especially worthwhile in the coming week.

20 thoughts too "Weekly Review. Our look to China."

  • I'm curious!

  • I'm curious what came out of it ... .I do not live far from it, I could have stopped by last week. In the spring I look at the vehicles and also do a test drive. But with the little e-mobile the Indimo Mic-E. You can say what you want. BAIC will chase away NEVS in China with respect to e-mobility and here in D other manufacturers (including German premium manufacturers) a lot of customers in the entire area of ​​passenger cars, as well as delivery vans, solely from the price point. The latter see discussion of blue badge, diesel bans in cities, etc ....

  • Me too, and I hope for some positive feedback .......

  • After all, the interest of the Chinese in the "old" technology shows how timely it still is today, how little has been done strictly speaking in the automotive industry (excluding hybrids and e-vehicles). But that's why I prefer SAAB technology in a used SAAB, rather than anywhere else ...

    And yet, of course, I am looking forward to the report.

    According to the media, the discrepancies between real consumption and catalog data have increased over the years from average 15 to 42%. My SAAB can be moved with the seat heating, air conditioning and light switched on quite close to the catalog information. In other words, the progress that other manufacturers have made with their burners is largely fictitious.

    An SAAB was somehow always an honest skin. What a pity …

    • I would even say that you can undercut the information. Above all, the 9k can be moved very sparingly and is nevertheless fast on the way. The first BAIC test follows today. (If the Telekom we do not pull the plug again

  • An exciting approach! I have waited a long time for BAIC to come to D, now it seems so far. In China, the business is running around, why not here too?

  • Too bad that it did not work with BAIC then.
    That would have been a better option than bankruptcy.
    That it can work with the Chinese shows Volvo with Geely.

    • Obviously, NEVS also has a good drive. Too bad - just about the trademark rights.

      • There is definitely a good drive. If you realize what is announced, then there are very interesting products. But there is still no production license for China reported ...

        • The production rights in China are the nuts and bolts, or am I wrong?
          Then you have to keep your fingers crossed for NEVS ... or Plan B by Detlef Rudolf will be pulled out of the drawer.
          Like z. Zt. BAIC therefore comes, missing (for me) externally and possibly internally the wit. Possibly. can there NEVS "help" ...

          • Of the production rights depends for NEVS a lot, you have to keep your fingers crossed indeed.

  • Maybe there will eventually be a merger between BAIC and NEVS - mergers, especially in the automotive industry, are very sensible.

    If the brand rights return then everything would be in bad shape - SAAB AB could earn huge revenues and BAIC would have greater opportunities for new developments by the Swedish experts in Trollhättan.

    • Good idea! This could perhaps elegantly circumvent the granting of the production license.

  • However, the importer only seems to drive off-road vehicles? I would now find "disturbing" ;-).

    • The importer does what the market wants. The import of the limousines is not thought, which I think is a pity but understandable. A Senova limousine on 9-5 OG basis, I would find exciting to test.

  • I'm just as excited about the report!
    Although the exterior of the BAIC models does not "blow you away" ... no buying reflex is triggered.
    To NEVS: Quote "If in the distant future the first, new vehicle from NEVS will be on the market, we can judge it."
    Judge, or even report ???

      • CLASS ! 🙂 Then the blog will stay online for a long time .... 😉

  • The competition of NEVS does not sleep ... See LA-Motorshow ... Jaguar will release next year, so earlier than NEVS, a SUV with pure electric drive, which targets the premium sector. To BAIC: I'm curious how the models will sell here in Germany, probably like sliced ​​bread, just from the price and because all the combustion models come along with Euro 6 (even those with Saab engines). I find the models interesting (burners like electric drive) aimed at the younger clientele from 16 years onwards and which can be driven with an A1 driver's license before the "correct" driver's license is made. After that, the engine can be legally beefed up and you drive at more speed. In addition, all models, equal rows of amenities, for which you can leaf out large sums of money from manufacturers such as VW ... Not to mention: insurance is lower than for comparable models of the competitors. The one who has to see on the wallet, again a tad better. The advantages in terms of prices, I have been seeing for years in scooters, where the vast majority of engines come from PR China or Taiwan or Japan.

  • All cars with the Saab DNA in them we must follow in this blog.
    Alright Tom? Maybe there is somewhere a replacement for what we can not have since 2011.
    Am also very curious to hear wieter what sat down there.

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