Yes, honestly, we are still here!

10 years after Saab last brought numbers to the people, the brand disappears from the public. Saab driving is more exotic than ever, but honestly, we're still there. Time for the short reports from the scene and the quarterly figures of Orio AB.

Saab at the Retro Classics Cologne
Saab at the Retro Classics Cologne. Image: Richard Holtz

In October 20 Saabs meet in Erfurt on Domplatz. The weather doesn't mean it well, it's rainy and cloudy, with an outside temperature of just 1 degree. The Saab friends from Thuringia undauntedly show their colors, the Erfurter Allgemeine honors this with text and picture on page 21. But they are still there, writes the editor. Yes, the Saab drivers are an amazing people.

Saab in the Erfurt general
Saab in the Erfurt general

Saab at the Retro Classics Cologne

It's not just the get-togethers and regional trips, the 1st German Saab Club also ensures that the brand is not forgotten. Last weekend it was that time again. The Retro Classics Cologne took place in Cologne. The club was there and showed two beautiful Saab 900s.

Anyone who has missed the appointment in Cologne, gets the opportunity in December to visit Essen. In December, the Saab and the Subaru jointly present at the Motor Show their treasures in hall 2, booth D23. The big show in Essen takes place from the 1. until the 9. December.

Quarterly figures from Orio

Orio fights with sales declines, but holds its own. In 3. Q1 2018 sales fell by 20%, especially the North American market was weak. The result slipped slightly into the red, Orio showed up at the release of the Quarterly figures nevertheless optimistic.

After the end of logistics services for Opel, costs were adjusted at the Nyköping location and 36 employees were laid off. 22 have already left the company after negotiations with the union. The outlook is positive, however, because Orio was able to win more customers for the logistics center in Nyköping, and the trade in auto parts from other brands is also developing well. However, the growth is not enough to compensate for the decline in the traditional Saab business.

17 thoughts on "Yes, honestly, we are still here!"

  • I can't really understand the "problem" with Orio either, the Saab density is steadily falling (understandable) - Orio, of course, feels this in the falling sales. I think the time of sticking to the sales strategy - only selling to affiliated dealers - should be revised as soon as possible.
    Where is the problem - to sell the parts to private customers in an online shop accessible to everyone at the normal end price!?!?
    The affiliated dealers would still their margin through their agreed terms fully preserved.

    Incidentally, the meeting on the Erfurt Domplatz was “only” the starting point for this year's traditional autumn trip of the SAAB Friends of Thuringia ...

    Lg. Thomas from Mühlberg

  • Orio or FSH are not the only ones selling the original parts. You can also order these at Skandix or Sweden parts.
    Ordering directly from Orio is therefore attractive because many parts are there clearly! cheaper than ordered via the FSH. This also applies to the third party as I was just able to determine: I need a new rear bumper due to damage. The price for the unpainted original part at FSH is approximately equal to the price for the factory-painted original part for Swedish parts in action. Fortunately, the opposing insurance pays

  • Thanks for the AW.
    But I meant the number of approved SAAB ...

    The development of the stock seems to me to be the only meaningful and objective yardstick for the performance of Orio. So a comparison of the decline in vehicle stock vs. Sales decline at Orio.
    Whether global and average or based on a particular country, I do not care.

    Is the development parallel or shrinking the SAAB stock significantly faster or slower than Orio's sales? Does the blog team know what?

  • The German numbers are unknown to me. The fall of 20% is an average. I would assume that it is higher in North America, lower in Germany.

  • Basically see it like you (Ken-Daniel & schwarzersaab).

    Have been driving SAAB since 20 and have never had anyone wait anywhere else than at Saab specialists.
    For repairs, however, the following restriction applies:
    I have never voluntarily (!) Else repaired elsewhere than Saab specialists.

    With a 9-3 and a 9-5 there was ever a situation in which there was no other way. On Bornholm (DK) or in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, I had to seek help from Opel for lack of SAAB representations.

    On the 9-3, a radiator hose was broken (you can change it yourself) and the 9-5 identified a broken plastic part as the cause of power loss and the lit warning light. I think it was the turbo's by-pass valve. It was replaced by a used GM part and exchanged for a new SAAB original part at the next service.

    So I had to pay for this repair twice. What for?

    If Orio were to deliver unconditionally to all workshops and to private customers, we SAAB drivers would have a significantly denser network of workshops and an improved possibility for self-help. It would be nice to have brand-new original parts immediately in the event of a breakdown, even though the next SAAB service is too far away ...

    I still value the everyday and travel suitability of my SC. It would be nice if Orio would support this to the maximum in all aspects. Unfortunately, the current sales model doesn't do that ...

  • Well, my job is not to feed any FSH. I bring my vehicle to where I get the best performance. In the case of my 9-3III, this happens to be a long-established Saab dealer (still nice with a complete Saab-Scania coporate identity).
    With the 901 I do a great job with Saab workshops. Since I go either in a free workshop whose owner has worked for the weddings of 90 / 99 and 901 at Saab as a master or to an absolute 901 specialists.

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  • How peaceful it is here when it's not about NEVZ ...
    That is really very and very positive.

    I'm currently counting 36 thumbs for comments above and not a single point down. SAABS UNITED.
    Have a nice day with all SAAB drivers.

  • Very much like Ken-Daniel! Always bring my 9-5 to the friendly dealer in OWL .. because I don't want it to disappear from the scene!

  • Nice that Saab is still represented at trade fairs.
    In order to bring Orio more sales, the Saab drivers would have to make the service at the workshop with the 3 letters or at independent workshops Serive, finally at a real Saab workshop. The Saab will thank you

  • Thanks Tom, understand. Of course it's not easy for Orio. It would make SAAB life easier for me if I could order directly.

  • Did the numbers in D-approved SAAB also fall by 20% within one year?
    That would be an interesting reference and reference.

    My (gut) feeling is that the mass of all SAAB approved in D is not compatible with an exclusive sales model. Either the cars are no longer young (and exclusive) enough or not yet old (and exclusive) enough. Both would contradict the definition of mass ...

    Of course, the concept of mass at SAAB is relative per se. Be that as it may, Orio should not refuse any SAAB drivers from now on in their own interest - regardless of the model and regardless of whether it is serviced in a local workshop, privately or at the nearest EX-SAAB dealer ...

    Every SAAB is a good SAAB. Also and especially for Orio ...

  • The decline in sales is certainly not without, but they are predictable and calculable. The real surprise is the time. I would have expected it earlier.

    As far as the online shop is concerned: Orio D has so far been available to specialist dealers and workshops. That was right and only consistent in the past. Unfortunately, the network is thinning out more and more, and there are fewer and fewer dedicated workshops that stand by Saab and Orio. The subject is sensitive, the future will probably have to bring an online shop for D too. Sooner - or later.

  • @Matt & Schwarzer Saab,

    full score for your comments. Orio's exclusivity and partnership has long since been terminated. First and foremost by the EX-SAAB partners themselves, who in the interest of their customers had long had access to other distributors and suppliers in order to keep one or the other SAAB going.

    Since it would only be good and logical if Orio in turn would sell to private. Otherwise, simply threatening an accelerated reduction of the stock and thus also of Orio's potential sales.

    But a win-win situation is defined differently.

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    20% compared to the same period last year (so the message is probably to understand) I think dramatically.

  • These are my thoughts! For Norway, Sweden, UK us that's it. Not for Germany, Switzerland and Austria? Why?

  • How about an online shop for individuals at Orio? Here, the decline could be cushioned a little. Or at least a homepage, which would show what Orio sells Saab parts and how the inventory is. So you would not have to go to the "Saabgarage" first
    to learn something. (Or having to deal with an unmotivated vendor / warehouseman)
    In addition, the "right" Saabgarage melt like snow in the sun, that is, the customers of Orio are less every year, not only the Saab driver. Worth a try. Or?

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  • A reason to get more existing Saab vehicles and to spend in case of problems in the Saab dealer. I get my Saab 900 1990 built in the best condition, as well as my Saab 9-3 convertible year 2005. I also benefit from my Saab Club in the Netherlands, which is reporting increasing membership, and younger people joining the club. Zambian greetings from the Netherlands. It is always a pleasure to move these vehicles.

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  • I think it's really good that SAAB drivers and enthusiasts are flagging in Cologne, Essen or on the cathedral square. And think it's great that the Erfurt General reports about it.

    So I do not want to get into pondering and philosophizing, which is so extraordinary that cars can be more relevant and useful than 7 years, or why some cars are like that and others are not. Saab drivers know the answer anyway. There are usually others who worry about redundancy, obsolescence, scrapping and exchange premiums.

    Shall they do and do. I find it very relieving and soothing to be out there and not having to make a bet on every sow that is driven through the village.

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