Picture puzzle: Motor + Trionic + longitudinal installation =?

Shortly before the weekend, after a long time, I feel like a Saab picture puzzle. It's about the engine, which can easily be identified as a Saab machine. But, damn it, something can't be right! Because the machine sits lengthways - and not across, as it should be.

Saab engine - but which car?
Sure, a Saab engine - but which car?

The Saab safety philosophy interlinked transmission and engine in the 9000 and other models. When installed in a transverse direction, a protective barrier results from the combination of both modules in front of the passenger compartment. It creates survival space and preserves the lives of passengers.

Rebus. Saab engine + Trionic + longitudinal installation =?

So what about the photo? Have they betrayed their own philosophy in Saab? Or is it the work of a wild Swedish tuner? It would be possible. For better classification: No hobbyist has transplanted here a Saab engine in another car. The picture was taken in the Saab prototype construction in Trollhättan. It was obviously Saab engineers who had their hands in the game here. A 9000 CS is parked in the background, which should make it easier for readers to sort out the time. Maybe the design of a big Saab? Above the 9000, but never realized?

But the question still arises: which car is shown here? Readers are in demand and we are looking forward to answers. We will reward the solution to the not very simple picture puzzle with a car care starter package worth € 49,90 from the Canadian specialist Krown. In addition, readers will receive an exclusive 31% discount on care products in the online shop until January 01, 2019 by entering the code “saabblog”.

The exciting story behind the puzzles I tell in the coming weeks on the blog. At first, Mark and I are waiting for the solution! Write us in the comments!

28 thoughts on "Picture puzzle: Motor + Trionic + longitudinal installation =?"

  • I agree with my previous speakers.
    Should be a Holden or a Vauxhall CV1 for the Australian market.
    Coolers and attachments can not be from Saab.
    The only thing that would make me close to a Saab is the red T5 box.
    So a Saab isses definitely not.
    Greetings from the Baltic Sea

  • Most revealing.

    Thanks for the link. Here is my favorite passage from the text: “(…) the Saab four-pot was capable of 150kW / 300Nm, well in excess of the 127kW / 293Nm produced by the Buick V6 at the time. Unfortunately, GM internal politics killed (...) ”.

  • Hi,

    It is a Holden Commodore with 2,0l turbo engine.
    Holden had to come up with something because the large-volume engine should now be occupied with a higher tax in the Asian region.


  • Joakim Nyberg has set the right track!

    The picture shows one of two Holden Commodore built in Trollhättan.


  • Think it is the attempt to develop a four-wheel system similar to Audi. This is easier with a longitudinally installed engine. And now I'll read through the other comments.Bin curious who else had the idea.

  • This is the Saab EV 1 from 1985. I'm pretty sure.

  • As Joakim Nyberg wrote it is def. a Holden. The installation white typically Holden, the periphery also typical Holden. So I say Holden Statesman, or Commodore. Or maybe a Holden prototype.

  • Tricky, the EV1 was on the old 900 platform. So the motor was inclined (see also various X-Ray's). I can't imagine all-wheel drive 9000. The engine periphery looks completely different, and such a conversion (only for all-wheel drive) would be absolutely uneconomical in production. I guess, not least because of the low front and no visible Saab grill (this is chrome-plated and visible at this time), on a sporty third-party make.

  • This is really a tricky question! For me, longitudinal engine means that it was classified before the 9000, but in the development period of the new engine. It's probably not the MPV, as far as I know it has the transverse engine. I guess the mid-90s and the "Experimental Vehicle 1", which has the engine lengthways, but the only picture I can find is the "old" engine. But the SAABists have certainly also experimented with the Trionic that has just been developed. - The resolution will be exciting ...

  • On this puzzle alone one can see how wonderfully multifaceted and enigmatic the SAAB story still is.
    I am absolutely not afraid of topics for 2019, 2020 and beyond. Hopefully the blog team will see it at the end of 2020 exactly as I feel today and I will hopefully get to know new SAAB facets here in 2021 ...

  • This “longitudinal construction” of the engine is actually only known from the classic SAAB 900 that was built until 1993 - it could certainly have been the prototype EV 1

  • I'm typing on the prototype of the Saab 9000 with all-wheel drive.
    At the EV1, the engine I mean was different.

  • I suppose that's a Saab EV1.

  • It certainly is not a V8. Otherwise the Trionic 2x would be available. I am (still) at a loss.

  • Could be Holden, GM canceled Saab plans to sell the engine. They really wanted that engine

  • A V8 would have been taken from the GM shelf, at least I think ...

    But a SAAB V8 would certainly have become something very special. If you think about the last 2,3T of the 9-5 chrome glasses, it would have had 4,6 liters and 520 hp as standard and would have been a bi-turbo. Deer then with 600 HP ...

    But what would that have to do with SAAB? For me, the trolls from Trollhättan are still the inventors of down-sizing. You built 4-cylinder with 2,0 to 2,3 liters, which some contemporary 6- or 8-cylinder of the upper class (back then, at the time of the 9K, all suckers) easily dug up the water ...

    That was very smart and smart is typically SAAB for me ...

  • That's really tricky. I have to roll SAAB literature for now.

  • I think the hint in the text is correct. It should be the Saab MPV based on 9k. The EV-1 I think the engine was tilted

  • Saab 9000 convertible?

  • .. from the color it could be an EV1.

  • It's January 18th ...

    And I've long since lost track of everything that has been published on this blog this year. What a pace, what a workload! Hopefully not a flash in the pan and hopefully not overwhelming. Please take care ...

    Anyway, my tip for the picture puzzle is: It is a prototype of the 9000 with all-wheel drive.

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