Flashing comfort = safety. Can be retrofitted to Saab 9-3 and 9-5

Saab has not been building cars for years. Model maintenance in the broadest sense takes place again and again. The most recent example is the comfort flashing for 9-3 floor and Saab 9-5 floor. The desire to keep the vehicles on the road for as long as possible is certainly part of the motivation. Have fun with the car and live sustainability another. Flashing comfort also makes old cars safer and is more than just a technical feature.

Comfort flashing for the 9-3 floor and 9-5 floor
Comfort flashing for the 9-3 floor and 9-5 floor

Comfort flashing has been standard on new cars for years. Briefly press the flashing lever, a triple signal to change lanes or directions is given automatically. After switching from a rental or company car, you miss this feature that you quickly get used to.

Flashing comfort = safety

Flashing comfort is more than just a modern gimmick for new cars. Comfortable, automated triple flashing makes the lane change clearly visible to all other road users and is better than a hastily set, unique flashing signal. At Saab Service Frankfurt it was similar and developed a retrofit solution that enables convenient flashing for the first generation of the Saab 3-9 and 3-9 without additional hardware.

The turn signal lever cannot do a soft touch - it still works without problems
The turn signal lever cannot do a soft touch - it still works without problems

We have already been able to try out the new feature for readers. The comfort flashing was retrofitted in our Saab 9-3 Aero from the year 2000. How well does it work? I still have an unfamiliar feeling on the first few meters. Nobody thought about comfortable, automated triple flashing at Saab 20 years ago. The turn signal lever is of course not designed for the “soft touch” feature, as is the case with new cars. It is a lever, in the truest sense of the word. Add to that the power of habit when you're in an older vehicle. You traditionally want to lock the turn signal in the way you have been doing it for 3 years.

After a few kilometers and half an hour's drive, everything is forgotten. The lever can suddenly “soft touch” and at the latest the next day it is as if it had never been different. A little psychology is involved, because now the 20-year-old Saab feels a bit more youthful. You don't want to miss comfort flashing anymore either, quite the opposite!

The retrofit solution from Saab Service Frankfurt works great and it has a big advantage over other solutions. It is based on the original hardware and software. No circuit boards or components from third-party providers are required, nothing is changed in the on-board electronics. An absolute plus, especially for old cars.

The price for the retrofit is € 120,00, the working time of approx. 30 minutes is included. Comfort flashing is now available for the first 9-3 and 9-5 generations, and is in preparation for the Saab 900 II. An appointment is necessary for retrofitting.

38 thoughts too "Flashing comfort = safety. Can be retrofitted to Saab 9-3 and 9-5"

  • Thank you and very nice idea and innovation from Saab Frankfurt! Is it known whether this will also be available for other Saab workshops at some point on the basis of a license?

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    • It is not yet clear whether Saab Service Frankfurt will realize sales together with other workshops. In Corona times everything is a little slower. The blog will definitely stay tuned and informed.

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  • Great and not at all a matter of course that in these times we are entertained daily (!) By the blog with distracting, stimulating, cheering up and simply interesting articles! A big thank you! 🙂

    The meaning of comfort blinking is not clear to me - maybe I just don't know and understand it. After all, I only drive my two Saab 9-3 II and III (MY 2011 and 2012). They don't have that either, do they? But when changing lanes, you only have to tap briefly anyway and the Saab flashes several times. I only “snap in” when the vehicle is actually turning, at the traffic lights, etc. And I always blink! Unlike all (partly luxury) new cars, which apparently do not have a turn signal as standard. ;-(

    Nevertheless, it is of course always nice when dedicated Saab workshops develop something on their own initiative that can be technically supplemented with our treasures and is simply fun. This is impressive, very welcome and great class!

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  • I don't know, I've been living in Germany for two years now and I keep thinking, why are the cars for D equipped with indicators at all? Almost nobody really blinks, especially not in the roundabout.

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  • “OUR” SAAB WORKSHOPS - SUPPORT NEEDED?

    A completely different question: Compared to other car dealerships whose new car business is currently completely idle, our Saab workshops, which probably only make a small share of their sales with used car sales, would have to do relatively well in the crisis, right? Does the blog know anything about it?

    Or to put it another way: Should we prefer service, larger orders or installations that we only planned to take two months to support our friendly staff? Or do they have their hands full anyway, everything is more complicated due to hygiene issues, staff in quarantine, etc., and you are happy if you are able to complete the pending orders under these conditions?

    Does the blog know what it has or does it have a recommendation?

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    • The situation is difficult in our federal system. The reason why there is nothing to read on the subject here.

      Example 1: Bamberg works, but is not allowed to do things like changing to summer tires. The Bavarian rule is very strict here.

      Example 2: Frankfurt works and is basically allowed to do all work according to the current status.

      At the same time, the nationwide call #StayAtHome applies

      Of course, time is difficult for all workshops and everyone will have to suffer a few sales losses. My opinion would be, after lifting the initial restrictions, to deliberately let the work due to Saab-related companies and not to the big chains. A lot would have been gained.

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    • There is a current addendum from Bavaria on this topic. Switching to summer bikes has been allowed since today, and minimum clearances must also be observed when visiting the workshop.

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  • Hans S .:

    Exactly - that's how it has been with the flashing in D in recent years, unfortunately! Is it different in other countries?

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  • @ Ebasil,

    if your Saab automatically flashes several times when tapped, then the comfort flashing is ...

    If you don't miss it, maybe it's because you have it?
    Anyway, Hollywood even devoted an entire movie to the wiper interval. Or rather, the inventor cheated by Ford.

    I think both comfort features are comparable in their meaning. Changing lanes with a light drizzle without interval and without comfort flashing with old cars is almost a work in progress ...

    Great commitment from the people of Frankfurt. Would be great if they would license the programming.

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  • Unfortunately, that is exactly the point. For those who are intellectually overwhelmed with the blinking, "comfort blinking" does not help either. Where is the problem actually with simply tapping the blinker or even engaging it? In many situations, blinking three times is too little.

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  • Great voluntary spirit of innovation! Great!
    Fits many good ideas in the present time. Thumbs up.
    And off to the sun!

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  • more important than blinking is LOOKING and CONTROL what is happening behind and next to you, because you are blinking so that you can see behind and next to what you are up to. but if there is nobody behind and next to me that I could interfere with my maneuver, then I don’t blink either. What for? Who for? The blinking must be of use to someone so that I blink, if it is not useful to anyone, then I do not blink. Don't know if that's useful as an explanation. Anyway, that's enough for me. So I don't really care about comfort flashing.

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  • I always find it amazing what is still being developed for the Saab fans and their treasures. Great!

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  • Know the system from our company cars (Volvo's) and find it practical when you have got used to it.
    But unfortunately a journey from Bern to Frankfurt is a little far for half an hour's work. In addition, I would have to drive twice. (9-5 / 902) It is to be hoped that this will not remain a comfort solution for the Frankfurt area and that others may also participate in this great innovation.

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  • So comfort flashing is something I don't miss at all. When I drive in a modern car, I give the turn signal there so that it snaps into place and I also do that in the Saabs. With the rain sensor, I would like a better sensor, or in addition to the sensor, a manual change in intensity. The sensor often does what it wants, sometimes it wipes too much and then it wipes too little again. Instead of comfort indicators, I would rather have good parking sensors in the front. Does anyone know what is good and handsome?

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  • Ulrich

    In any case, I see various cars every day that should also see me the other way around, and do not blink, even though they should: abruptly pulling over onto the other lane, stopping abruptly on the road without blinking to the right (it only stops because it looks chic darkened windows is a traffic obstacle or does he want to take a break on his own initiative?), no blinking when leaving the roundabout etc. These are real safety risks, precisely because these people obviously do not observe the traffic around them, dream about it and then suddenly force other traffic participants to make emergency stops.

    My humble opinion: If you don't even think about whether you are alone and therefore why the "enormous effort" of blinking is required, but always flashes intuitively (however you put the belt on, even on a dirt road), you forget it also never.

    For convenience flashing: three times, as a reader wrote above, is often not enough. And tapping without snapping leads to the same result and effort, at least for the middle-aged cars, only that you can flash longer - and should, if necessary.

    Still a nice and commendable action from Frankfurt!

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  • The flashing discussion ...

    Including thumb down starts almost as hot as the speed limit.
    "But why on earth?"
    (Troll quote from Ronja the Robber's Daughter)

    Of course, the comfort flashing is a nice to have and not a must have. Otherwise, many of us would not have the cars they just have.

    Here's a little tip for locking and unlocking the turn signal lever:
    You can also give 3, 4 or any number of characters without comfort flashing by holding the lever gently and gently at the first pressure point during a lane change.
    This saves the driver from having to reset and the component from mechanical stress. Please only click into place when the turn is actually made and the automatic reset takes effect. Otherwise you shorten the lifespan of your turn signal lever significantly ...

    As a rule, at some point they refuse to engage at all if they are switched off too often by hand and against their automatic reset. Then there is no more TÜV if no spare part is available.

    You can turn and turn as you like, Frankfurt's innovation and initiative are top quality. The general availability would be even better throughout Germany and globally for all Saab drivers.

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  • When I use my SAAB 9-3 Mj. In 2000 (and it was the same with my previous 9-3 MY 2002), the blinker flashes exactly as long as I tap - it does NOT blink three times. That is exactly the point of the comfort blinking and I miss that too and I am happy that it is now available. Hopefully soon in Kiel too. 🙂

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  • @ Paul Tappert: Yes, I would also like to know that from the Kiel area. Driving to Frankfurt is a bit too far 🙂

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  • It's a good thing that there are still committed people who continue to dedicate themselves to a unfortunately extinct vehicle brand and continue to bring features to the start! (-:

    I've only had comfort flashing since I got my great 9-3 II. Before I didn't miss it, now I don't want to miss it (on this vehicle). It's not a must, but nice to have.
    (In my 9-3 II MY08 I use the eSID2 and set the comfort flashing to 5x - it fits me perfectly!)

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  • @Ebasil, let's put it this way, it's a little better in Switzerland, especially at the roundabout. Since many have already recognized that this benefits liquid traffic. And a non-blinking in Switzerland quickly costs 100 or more francs, and is often checked at gyroscopes. I should be fine, I really always blink.
    Also in Germany 😉

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  • Bending right of way ...

    is my personal blinking muffle highlight. Not far from where I live (cold engine) I have to thread myself there every day. Just stupid that hardly anyone flashes and I never know who is following the right of way or straight ahead.
    I have to let go of many a possibility.
    It is logical that at some point you start sprinting into the smallest gaps. So the day starts "well" with curses and curses.

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  • Sounds pretty good and shows that sprinting into the gap is the safest solution. We say that you also practice zips, which always works here. Flashing or not. Watching and acting is popular by counting on the consideration of others. This is more important than blinking, which is not practiced by everyone.

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  • Another point why I have never missed this comfort flashing or even found it annoying:

    As Herbert Hürsch has already described, you only need to move the turn signal lever slightly up or down (without snapping it into place) and you can use it to determine how long you want to flash.

    I find this annoying blinking annoying if, for example, you want to enable a truck to overtake on the highway and he has already set the turn signal himself and shows him with a single flashing signal that he can swing out - much better than this annoying situation to have to endure automatic triple blinking (in the past there was the slogan “Hello partner - thank you”, hardly practiced today…). You just have to have driven a 3-tonne truck yourself in order to get to know the needs of slower road users (I was allowed to do this as a holiday job with a friend's freight forwarder many, many years ago).

    What bothers me in Germany in particular is, in addition to not flashing when turning the right of way, also not flashing within the roundabout, as is very often the case in France. So there are two flashes (even without comfort indicators), in the roundabout and when exiting the roundabout. We don't even handle this when we drive out.

    Another annoying point: if you have made a mistake when it shows the direction of the flashing, it stubbornly flashes three times in front of you. With the then Vectra III this was particularly annoying, because if you wanted to correct this mistake, it flashed three times in the other direction. The indicator lever also remained stubbornly in its horizontal position.

    But who likes it. Still great from the Saab service Ratzmann!

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  • That's exactly what I meant yesterday, of course my two 9-3 series don't have any comfort indicators, but I always use the tap with which the duration can be individually controlled, which I find much more sensible (and what Herbert Hürsch described yesterday) . Nevertheless, of course a nice development from Saab Frankfurt.

    In the roundabout you should only blink when driving out (important!), But not when driving in (is superfluous anyway): With small roundabouts and when the turn signals are engaged, this means that the car will continue to flash for a while after turning is interpreted by those waiting at the next exit in such a way that the car wants to leave the roundabout in front of them, so that the waiting person can pull in. Dangerous - I've seen it before!

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  • @ Ebasli

    When I blinked at the roundabout, I meant that the LEFT indicator was set immediately after entering the circle and signaled to the person waiting in the next entrance. that you only want to leave the circle later, for example at the next but one exit - then of course by setting the right turn signal.

    Even if it contradicts the German traffic regulations, I try to comply with it, as I saw it very often in France - and hopefully can experience it again soon after the restrictions.

    So please take care of all of you, stay healthy !!!

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  • Wonderful these highlights of flashing in a spinning top that I never bother about. I watch and act. When someone drives out, I drive in instead and the move is done. From my perspective, the difference between a blinking exit or observing the exit can hardly be more than half a second. You can see from the direction of travel of the outgoing vehicle plus its wheel position whether it is extending or continuing. And then you take your place, immediately while it's still driving out. This guarantees 100% safety for the driver and I have never had any problems with it for 60 years (50 of which with Saab). For me, observing and acting in accordance with traffic is more important than blinking. Even if the theory and the law see it differently.

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  • Isn't this discussion with Verve about blinking just wonderful? In any case, I really enjoy this wonderfully normal German rea discussion in these surreal times! It gives you the illusion for a period of time that we would otherwise have no problems ... 😉

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  • Hello Hans. I have the feeling that the blinker is prohibited in Spain under the threat of imprisonment ...

    gruß

    The Lizi

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  • Delicious comments.

    The discussion is getting better. As so often, the Lizi (forbidden to imprisonment) conjures up a smile on my face and Ebasil also ensures cheerfulness (illusion of no other problems) ...

    Thanks to both of you. The 2 most recent comments are also my happy favorites on the topic.

    With Ulrich (the third most recent comment) I don't know what is meant seriously or ironically? I'm not getting through ...

    In any case, the blinking according to StVO has nothing to do with your own advantage. It is not a matter of asserting yourself, but of enabling the other road users to reliably and bindingly anticipate upcoming maneuvers.

    Those who do not understand this are at best confused. Otherwise, deliberately ignorant and dangerous.

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  • the third most recent comment is neither serious nor ironic, but simply realistic, corresponds to my very long driving experience and it has always proven successful. Logically, the blinking has nothing to do with its own advantage, but wants to give other traffic participants a preview of upcoming maneuvers. That is clear as day and does not require any further justification. Nor is there anyone, not even the third youngest commentator (who is unfortunately the oldest of the participating commentators) who would not understand this or would be misleading and even less ignorant or dangerous. I don't know what would be deliberately ignorant or dangerous in my driving experience. On the contrary, it does not comply with the regulations, but offers 150% security, is very reactive and, in the worst case, may lag behind the blinking advance for half a second. But there are many older drivers over the age of 65 who need 5 - 10 seconds before they have registered the traffic situation, especially in the roundabouts (blinking doesn't help anymore), and that's really dangerous. The best example is my neighbor, over 75 years old, who is still driving, but has obviously become unfit to drive, as I discovered her behavior at a roundabout a few weeks ago. So let's smoke the Saabian peace pipe and calm down.

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  • Peace pipe

    For my sake. But based on what agreement and decision?

    There is a very, very wide field between the absolute inability to drive and a high level of understanding coupled with speed of reaction ...

    There are also vehicles with different braking distances and acceleration capabilities. About trucks. It is impossible to shave all of this together.

    It's nice for you if your current reality of life happens to represent the optimum. Plenty of experience, fit like a sneaker and master of a driving car.

    What I don't understand at all is, where should the problem be then, to blink for others?

    For example for a combine harvester or a novice driver in an overloaded small car ...

    You would definitely have the necessary capacity. The blinker may be overrated, but it still makes sense and is not too much to ask. Therefore, I personally do not like smoking a peace pipe with road users who do not find others worthy of a set turn signal.

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  • I think in this exchange of views you need a little bit of tolerance and understanding that you can experience the blinking in a roundabout differently. If you find that a personal affront and therefore think that you have to shoot back a little unfairly from all the tubes, then I'm sorry. I only feed in my driving experience, which I do not want to overestimate and even less to place above the traffic regulations, which clearly says where, when and why it should be blinking, so this is not a topic of discussion and must not be questioned . I therefore do not say that the turn signals are overrated and have no sense and purpose, nor would I find blinking drivers unworthy. These are your words, not mine, please calm down. Why do you have to feel like you stuck into a wasp nest just because you express your opinion? After all, my active car is a Saab 9-5 2.3T Griffin SC that I've been driving for 10 years and is an absolutely wonderful vehicle that tops my 50-year-old Saab loyalty. With greetings.

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  • No discussion topic

    Well then it's all right. Her older comments read differently - as if one should question the blinking and do not have to practice it.

    So we agree that you blink. And that many unfortunately fail to do so, but this does not prevent us from identifying and using gaps in traffic.

    On this basis, I also like to smoke a peace pipe. But not in your beautiful car (congratulations) and not in mine. That would be a smelly sacrilege.

    We could have had it easier.
    Sunny greetings

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  • Thank you very much, I am happy that peace and tranquility will return. Unfortunately, due to my many years of driving experience, I am one of the blinkers who only blink when it is absolutely necessary and safety-relevant in dense multi-lane traffic or before overtaking maneuvers and really benefits other road users. I practically never blink in roundabouts, because there are far too many of them and there are always more, especially in France and England, but recently also with us, and there are often no other road users who could be of any use. And if it doesn't benefit anyone, even when overtaking on roads and highways, I don't blink.
    Please forgive me for this negligence, which should not be an incentive for others, because we are all asked to follow the applicable regulations and they are very clear and unambiguous on the subject of flashing and I do not question it.
    Precisely because I'm unfortunately lazy for blinking, the never-ending dialogue about blinking annoyed me and I put on a first text, which I then threw away again because I anticipated that it might not be welcome and offend. Then we went on to flashing and so my comment came anyway, but it was more of a gimmick on the subject from my personal point of view, which I should actually keep to myself, since it violates the applicable regulations, of which I am aware .
    I wanted to say that so that you can better understand the motives for my writing.
    I wish you a very happy and reflective Easter holiday in the wonderful weather. All the best and warm regards.

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  • @ Ulrich,

    Happy holidays and a safe journey at all times. A little tip: fill up.

    I saw Super Plus for 1,19 earlier and I just forgot to blink because I was so happy…

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  • See Herbert, we are working in a totally coordinated and synchronized manner again: Last night at 19:15 p.m., I wisely filled 60 liters of 95 octane into the tank, but the price is a bit higher for us because it is heavily taxed. Our price was CHF 1,355 and is the lowest I've seen here for a while. With the OPEC agreement, the price level should rise soon. On March 26.3th I was in Frankfurt, filled up there before the return trip and saw your low price level.
    So normally you should really BLINK and HORN when you are happy….
    May our Saab's bring us much joy for a long time to come.
    PS of the 3.0 Saab 9-4X from Switzerland is cheap with only 15 km, but oversized for me and I have no desire to drive around with a consumption of 000 liters. At the moment I bought my current car, I was also interested in a 12-9 Eco-Power, which I drove for a week and also had a consumption of 5 liters, which I decided not to do and bought the current one that drives 12 liters.
    All the best and best regards Ulrich

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